Shaping/policing at the head end eliminates this problem, and clears up
your backbone.
On Jul 12, 2016 7:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

> When this happens it basically wipes out that customer’s Internet except
> for the CDN download, no matter where you do the rate limiting.  Customer
> of course assumes their ISP just sucks.  With a lot of education, you can
> convince most of them it is actually an aggressive application hogging
> their entire pipe and pushing all the other applications aside.  So I have
> customers that whenever their VPN to work stops working, they yell upstairs
> at their kid didn’t I tell you to do your Xbox downloads after I go to bed?
>
> One view is this isn’t a problem, customer uses bad application, feels
> pain, learns not to do that.  But everyone tells them it is always the
> ISP’s fault.  And people with fat pipes like 50 or 100 Mbps cable Internet
> probably don’t experience this problem, which reinforces the idea that it’s
> the ISP’s fault.
>
>
> *From:* Darin Steffl <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:42 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CDN overload
>
>
> Why aren't you rate limiting at the core closer to your upstream? Keep the
> traffic off your last mile and wireless backhaul network if you can help
> it.
>
> Works much better to throttle at the core instead of CPE.
>
> Sent from my smartphone. Please excuse any typos.
> On Jul 12, 2016 5:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have had it with these CDNs sending more traffic than the last mile can
>> handle. Got a customer at 1.5Mbps on 900 FSK and they're sending to her at
>> 15Mbps. Of course the AP reports RF downlink overloaded.
>>
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