How does it eliminate the problem, unless you use something like a Procera to 
selectively apply policing to the CDN stream, leaving the customer some 
bandwidth for other traffic?

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 7:22 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CDN overload

Shaping/policing at the head end eliminates this problem, and clears up your 
backbone. 

On Jul 12, 2016 7:06 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

  When this happens it basically wipes out that customer’s Internet except for 
the CDN download, no matter where you do the rate limiting.  Customer of course 
assumes their ISP just sucks.  With a lot of education, you can convince most 
of them it is actually an aggressive application hogging their entire pipe and 
pushing all the other applications aside.  So I have customers that whenever 
their VPN to work stops working, they yell upstairs at their kid didn’t I tell 
you to do your Xbox downloads after I go to bed?

  One view is this isn’t a problem, customer uses bad application, feels pain, 
learns not to do that.  But everyone tells them it is always the ISP’s fault.  
And people with fat pipes like 50 or 100 Mbps cable Internet probably don’t 
experience this problem, which reinforces the idea that it’s the ISP’s fault.


  From: Darin Steffl 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:42 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CDN overload

  Why aren't you rate limiting at the core closer to your upstream? Keep the 
traffic off your last mile and wireless backhaul network if you can help it. 

  Works much better to throttle at the core instead of CPE. 

  Sent from my smartphone. Please excuse any typos. 

  On Jul 12, 2016 5:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have had it with these CDNs sending more traffic than the last mile can 
handle. Got a customer at 1.5Mbps on 900 FSK and they're sending to her at 
15Mbps. Of course the AP reports RF downlink overloaded.

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