Bad flashback....

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Over subscription Rate

I knew there was a reason I saved this cartoon.
(WARNING:  could be considered NSFW)


From: George Skorup 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Over subscription Rate

Let Medusa seduce ya with her 14 beams.


On 7/22/2016 10:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I would be giving everyone 25 Mbps if I was to put it up.  So, I doubt I 
could put more than about 6 on there without running into trouble.  

  From: Kurt Fankhauser 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:13 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Over subscription Rate

  With the Cambium PMP450 I monitor the framelink utilization via SNMP to 
determine if an AP is oversubscribed or not. I have 25 subs on this ap and it 
peaks at about 25% utilization on the downlink every night. Customers are a mix 
of 1.5Meg / 3.0Meg / 6Meg download with up to 20mbps bursting. At this rate I 
would safely say I could put 75 subscribers on this AP but it really is 
dependent on who your customers are. I have a similar AP only serving 15 
customers that will hit 50% utilization sometimes. Apparently the customers in 
that area must watch more Netflix, lol.

  On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com> wrote:

    Very helpful Adam. Thank you!

    Sam 


    On 7/21/2016 4:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

      I don't believe in over subscription rates. :)

      For planning purposes, I assume we'll get 2/3's of advertised throughput
      from the AP and then plan on 8:1.

      In real life you have to abandon the over subscription rate after the
      planning phase and monitor what's actually happening on the AP's.
      Averaging hundreds of users together you'll get actual usage that seems
      in line with an 8:1 or 6:1 ratio. On an individual AP you tend to not
      have enough capacity for more than 30-50 people, so you can easily get a
      few statistical outliers in the mix that make actual consumption not
      line up with the planned over subscription rate.

      It goes both ways too....I've seen sites with actual over subscription
      of 20:1 and everything's working ok, and other actual sites fall apart
      when oversub was only 4:1.


      ------ Original Message ------
      From: "Sam Morris" <w...@csilogan.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: 7/21/2016 7:58:18 AM
      Subject: [AFMUG] Over subscription Rate


        At what level do you over subscribe your APs? 4:1? 8:1? 15:1? Or
        something else?

        Thanks
        Sam








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