Fiber in helped to install in 1990 is as good as the day it went in the ground. So 26 years and counting. I’ll bet it will be good at the 50 year mark and probably the 100 year mark.
From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e? The other huge thing about fiber is that properly done singlemode, assuming it does not become physically damaged, is almost infinitely future proof... What you install now could be in use in 30 years. If you pull 9/125 G.657.A1 to a rooftop now for a 1 Gbps link and terminate it properly in a small patch panel in a weatherproof rooftop box, someday in the future you can upgrade to a 10Gbps radio. If you were crazy enough to haul a router with a 100 Gbps interface onto your roof you could connect it over the same two strands of singlemode. At reach distances of < 1 km of fiber from MPOE to roof (or tower) a 4 x 25 Gbps CWDM signal is easy. Whereas if you pull really expensive special cat6 cable to a roof or up a tower, good luck ever using that with 10GBaseT (and I really do NOT see high capacity PTP radio manufacturers ever releasing a 10GBaseT radio, they're going with SFP+ for optical instead, thankfully). On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected]> wrote: The only time I have really seen the need is the larger diameter cable helps with longer runs of cable especially with POE. As others have said though I am starting especially on backhaul to do all fiber. It is cheaper easier to weatherproof. If it gets water in the jacket and you have it spliced and terminated outside your cabinet then water drains out. Plus you don't have to worry about blown router/switch ports anymore. I prefer the Primus Cable Cat6 they also have connectors that are a great deal like UBNT ones and have a special insert that lines the wires up to the pins. Trey On 8/2/2016 12:25 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Agreed. I'm just using ToughCable until the gear I use starts accepting SFPs. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> *To: *[email protected] *Sent: *Monday, July 25, 2016 12:57:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e? Cat6/a has some nice anti-crosstalk features for large trays of cables (48 port switch or more, hundreds of runs, etc). Can also help with near end crosstalk. Can also help with POE if you're used to shitty cat5/e with small gauge wire. Also is good for short 10G runs. That said, most WISPs aren't in any of those situations, and if you are and it's possible, fiber is often a much better solution. TLDR: stick to tough cable or similar On Jul 25, 2016 12:54 PM, "Christopher Gray" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I just picked up some Shireen DC-2021 Cat6 cable, thinking I would start using Cat6 for my Mimosa installations (as suggested). It turns out, the individual insulation is too big for any of my RJ45 ends, and the jacket is also too big. Now, I'm looking at Cat6A connectors (that have a staggered insert and a full shield). Next, I will need a new crimper that does not crush the shield on the Cat6A connector. Anyhow, it seems like a lot of work to use Cat6 where some ToughCable and basic shielded RJ45 connectors might be functionally equivalent. Should I be seriously considering Cat6? When did you decide Cat6 was worth it? -Chris
