If a cable is more durable, then it's longer before you have to go back
and replace it.
If a cable is less kinky and stiff, then it installs easier which saves
labor.
We have to try to quantify and weigh these factors. It's not religion,
it's business.
There's also no harm in appreciating the good aspects of a design even
if it's something as mundane as cable.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 8/5/2016 8:43:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
I could understand if we were all using CCA with non-uv rated cable
with no shield and installing the shit underwater, but given some of
the price differences for minimal gain, most of the cabling issues in
my experience have been related to inadequacies in installer training
and not the cable itself - or using staples... those people are the
fucking devil.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote:
Cable is a serious deal.. I mean your network runs on it!
On Aug 5, 2016 6:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
I've never seen a level of religion in IT equivalent to the cable
religion on this list. It's kinda nuts.
On Aug 5, 2016 6:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
That's the 7919a and equivalent. Good cable, just a PITA. And
expensive. The foil tears easily. I like everything about the
Shireen 1042 for tower cable. Larger tinned stranded drain wire
would be nice, but meh. The foil is more than heavy enough and isn't
brittle like the Belden/Best-Tronics stuff.
On 8/5/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042? It’s similar to Belden, but
the foil isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it
back. It has the dry gel impregnated tape instead of the clear
mylar in the Belden. Only thing I miss maybe is the stranded drain
wire. I forget which Belden version has that, we used to buy both
1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was the 7919a that had the
stranded drain wire.
The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice.
From:That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming
across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t
use it because they hate the goo. They do have to admit however
when they go to a 10 year old install that it stands up to the
weather really, really well.
From:That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden
on the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the
foil tears and the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not
green toughcable :-)
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]>
wrote:
Love you too Steve :-)
We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would
rather use one of those cables.
Daniel White
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
[email protected]
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of That One Guy
/sarcasm
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
belden something or other was the greatest
but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter
shit with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup
<[email protected]> wrote:
Shireen DC-1021
On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences
for residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5
and preferably pays out of a box.
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