DOD was using floppy disks until just this year. I can't believe these Airlines were running servers on XP machines? Thats not even a server OS is it not? Maybe they didn't want to upgrade to 7 so that they could avoid the "free 10 upgrage nagging"
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > The county has about 120k. To anybody in any remotely major metro, I was a > "hick from a podunk". > > On Aug 10, 2016 10:24 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The systems exist, but they're rare. >> >> If it had a stoplight, it wasn't a small town. ;-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:11:14 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure >> >> Uhhhhhhmmmmmm... >> >> The small town I came from had an adaptive control system since roughly >> 2006, with green wave programming on major thoroughfares. >> >> This info here may be slightly out of date, but here you go: >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light_control_and_coordination >> >> On Aug 10, 2016 6:39 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ah, re-reading, you meant regular traffic control, not air traffic >>> control (which is what the thread was about). >>> >>> Most of the same applies. Most lights are independent from the rest of >>> the system. There's no ability for the system to adjust timing based on >>> system demand. Those systems exist, but they're not deployed (or properly >>> configured if they are) most places. >>> >>> Most traffic lights default to flashing red after a power outage. This >>> is singly one of the most retarded things they could do. When the power >>> comes back on, just do what you were already doing. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:47:24 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure >>> >>> So what makes traffic lights not efficient? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You can still make a fire rubbing two sticks together, and that will >>>> work forever. >>>> >>>> It's not efficient though. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You put up a light/module and it runs 24/7 for decades. Sounds pretty >>>>> efficient to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's a mess, inefficient amazing it still works? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:15:39 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure >>>>>> >>>>>> Legacy isn't always bad. Look at traffic control. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016 10:12 PM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a good buddy who has been a air traffic controller for many >>>>>>> years. He was one of four guys brought into Baton Rouge after Katrina to >>>>>>> work 18-20 hours for a month straight. He says you done't even want to >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> about the "legacy" equipment in ATC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Opps... There we go.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016 8:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Salud a todos.... "Yanquis go home, gringas come here, ajuaaa!! " >>>>>>>>> Rancho El Pino, Bustillos, Chihuahua.... 1966. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 9, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Airlines fly around clouds. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:32 PM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They keep all their servers in the same central location?? You >>>>>>>>>> would think someone the size of Delta would know better. They should >>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>> into this new thing called "the cloud"... I've heard it's an >>>>>>>>>> up-and-coming >>>>>>>>>> new technology that might really help them. LOL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Travis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/2016 5:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> “According to the flight captain of JFK-SLC this morning, a >>>>>>>>>> routine scheduled switch to the backup generator this morning at >>>>>>>>>> 2:30am >>>>>>>>>> caused a fire that destroyed both the backup and the primary. >>>>>>>>>> Firefighters >>>>>>>>>> took a while to extinguish the fire. Power is now back up and 400 >>>>>>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>> the 500 servers rebooted, still waiting for the last 100 to have the >>>>>>>>>> whole >>>>>>>>>> system fully functional” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many running on XP I am told. “Server has been up for 6.3 years, >>>>>>>>>> never reboot this server...” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>
