Flickr is Yahoo.  They're in the top 10 US I believe.

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think I confused Instagram and Flickr.
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Friday, August 12, 2016 11:20:44 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
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> Instagram is about to die off?
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> >Alexa rank Increase 19 (July 2016)
> >Ranked 16th in the US
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> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/instagram.com
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> No need for Snapchat. It'll die off like Instagram and Tumblr are about
>> to do.
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
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>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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>> *From: *"Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Friday, August 12, 2016 10:56:00 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>
>> Snapchat is no longer either a teen app nor its for nudes... like every
>> app, it evolves ... If you guys are not keeping pace with the digital
>> evolution... you turn into dinosaurs...
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> You have a very small population to cater to... and most of them
>>> probably don't use FB. LOL
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/11/2016 11:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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>>>> I wish you could teach me how to use FB for marketing.  I finally
>>>> stopped paying google and bing and my sales have gone way up.  Go figure.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:50 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>>>
>>>> So... Google is going to do what WISP's have been doing for 20 years
>>>> (before they were even called WISPs). That's hilarious.
>>>>
>>>> "Fiber! Fiber! Fiber! That is the answer to everything. We are doing
>>>> fiber everywhere!"
>>>> "Fiber is expensive, and we can never get an ROI with that model...
>>>> let's look at wireless."
>>>>
>>>> I'm still laughing... a company that size, with those resources, and yet
>>>> they still seem to be clueless sometimes. I'm in agreement, I doubt
>>>> Google will even be around in 20 years. I own several e-commerce
>>>> companies (multi-million dollar ones), and we don't spend a dime with
>>>> Google. One company spends $5k/month with Facebook and it generates
>>>> $400k in sales, per month.
>>>>
>>>> Google is becoming "old school"... the same way email is compared to
>>>> texting... and the way texting/FB/Instagram is compared to Snapchat.
>>>> These companies get big, really fast... but the problem is, that means
>>>> someone else can do the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/11/2016 6:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to sound like not a google fanboy but it's a typical phd
>>>>> company.. They look at the paper pile before the experience pile...  & yes
>>>>> they will eventually go down because of it...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/11/2016 03:24 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I can
>>>>>> tell you there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause on
>>>>>> the deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of pole 
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> (read competitors to their broadband deployment). This forced a lot more 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the project deigns to underground deployment. In cities like San Jose and
>>>>>> San Francisco, there were a lot of requirements that cost more money than
>>>>>> Google budgeted for. In some respects Google kind of had the idea that
>>>>>> cities would remove obstacles like that to get them in their city. With 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> much existing broadband already in place, this is certainly not the 
>>>>>> case. I
>>>>>> think Google thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they
>>>>>> had with the first cities who applied for Google to come to their cities
>>>>>> (Like Kansas City did).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google was also of the impression that they could design and permit
>>>>>> their networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on
>>>>>> pre-sign ups (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge logistic
>>>>>> problem in planning construction especially with underground deployment.
>>>>>> This also drove up costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you will see
>>>>>> from them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark fiber,
>>>>>> capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems where they
>>>>>> can. They may use microwave to cross connect systems or bridge high
>>>>>> construction cost areas such as railroad crossings. They are looking at
>>>>>> wireless to basically go more from the curb to the customer, especially 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> MDU cases. Existing competition and/or existing contracts within an MDU
>>>>>> makes it risky to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a
>>>>>> huge take rate within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a 
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> capacity short hop last mile, but even then they will have challenges 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> spectrum, interference and capacity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While we all would think Google is a great company with resources to
>>>>>> do whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot from
>>>>>> the inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings with 
>>>>>> ADD
>>>>>> and too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older folks
>>>>>> are too far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking 
>>>>>> about.
>>>>>> Google is certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the
>>>>>> people, tools and skill sets to be one. They are their own best
>>>>>> cheerleaders and they have a dangerous habit of believing their own hype
>>>>>> internally and are not real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and
>>>>>> outside input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel
>>>>>> through the eye of a needle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Josh Reynolds
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your
>>>>>> WISP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in
>>>>>> the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best RF
>>>>>> engineering talent in the world on their payroll?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which
>>>>>> is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most
>>>>>> appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a couple
>>>>>> hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing the same
>>>>>> thing too. It's the smart play.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean
>>>>>> "saying they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait until they experience ducting ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Bill Prince
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in
>>>>>>> San Jose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone know anything about Webpass?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to
>>>>>>> fiber.
>>>>>>> Interesting times!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/
>>>>>>> 08/google-fiber-del
>>>>>>> ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1
>>>>>>>
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