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On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > Unfortunately it's like 500 billion for search and 50 billion for youtube > and 5 billion for android... Still billions are great numbers but you > have to consider that Google spends money like it's rain... > > On 08/12/2016 12:33 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > >> Didn't the previous email say there were only 3 money makers? >> Android, search engine, and Youtube? >> $555 billion isn't bad for three money makers. LOL >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/10/investing/google-alphabet-al >> l-time-high/ >> >> "Shares of Google parent company Alphabet (GOOGL, Tech30) hit an >> all-time high Tuesday of more than $813 a share. The company is now >> worth $555 billion." >> >> "The company is still growing at a rate that would make most companies >> envious. Analysts are forecasting that profits will increase more than >> 15% this year and that sales will be up 20%. >> >> That's truly remarkable when you consider just how colossal Google is. >> Sales are expected to top $88.5 billion this year and exceed $100 >> billion in 2017." >> >> So, that may take awhile there Robert. >> >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Robert Andrews >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Sorry to sound like not a google fanboy but it's a typical phd >> company.. >> > They look at the paper pile before the experience pile... & yes >> they will >> > eventually go down because of it... >> > >> > On 08/11/2016 03:24 PM, Brian Webster wrote: >> >> >> >> Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I >> can tell you >> >> there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause on >> the >> >> deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of pole >> owners (read >> >> competitors to their broadband deployment). This forced a lot >> more of the >> >> project deigns to underground deployment. In cities like San >> Jose and San >> >> Francisco, there were a lot of requirements that cost more money >> than Google >> >> budgeted for. In some respects Google kind of had the idea that >> cities would >> >> remove obstacles like that to get them in their city. With so >> much existing >> >> broadband already in place, this is certainly not the case. I >> think Google >> >> thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they had >> with the >> >> first cities who applied for Google to come to their cities >> (Like Kansas >> >> City did). >> >> >> >> Google was also of the impression that they could design and >> permit their >> >> networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on >> pre-sign ups >> >> (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge logistic >> problem in >> >> planning construction especially with underground deployment. >> This also >> >> drove up costs. >> >> >> >> Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you >> will see from >> >> them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark >> fiber, >> >> capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems >> where they can. >> >> They may use microwave to cross connect systems or bridge high >> construction >> >> cost areas such as railroad crossings. They are looking at >> wireless to >> >> basically go more from the curb to the customer, especially in >> MDU cases. >> >> Existing competition and/or existing contracts within an MDU >> makes it risky >> >> to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a huge >> take rate >> >> within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a high >> capacity short >> >> hop last mile, but even then they will have challenges with >> spectrum, >> >> interference and capacity. >> >> >> >> While we all would think Google is a great company with >> resources to do >> >> whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot >> from the >> >> inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings >> with ADD and >> >> too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older >> folks are too >> >> far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking >> about. Google is >> >> certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the >> people, tools >> >> and skill sets to be one. They are their own best cheerleaders >> and they have >> >> a dangerous habit of believing their own hype internally and are >> not real >> >> good at listening to fresh viewpoints and outside input. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM >> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a >> camel through >> >> the eye of a needle. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Josh Reynolds >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM >> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with >> your WISP. >> >> >> >> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful >> companies in the >> >> world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the >> best RF >> >> engineering talent in the world on their payroll? >> >> >> >> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, >> which is >> >> evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most >> appropriate >> >> one for the application. If it was going to cost you a couple >> hundred >> >> thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing the same >> thing too. >> >> It's the smart play. >> >> >> >> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean >> "saying >> >> they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Bill Prince >> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >>> >> >>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At >> least in >> >>> San Jose. >> >>> >> >>> Anyone know anything about Webpass? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> bp >> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >>> >> >>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as >> alternative to >> >>> fiber. >> >>> Interesting times! >> >>> >> >>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/ >> google-fiber-del >> >>> ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1 >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
