That seems strange since Lite is just a license key, the hardware is the same, 
and in fact you can upgrade a Lite to a Full with a key.  There was a certain 
firmware version that the first Lites shipped with, before that the FW didn’t 
know about the Lite/Full keys.  You’re sure it’s not a firmware problem you’re 
having?  Version 14.1.2 seems to solve a myriad of problems.

From: Matt Hopkins 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:32 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP450 AP problems?

We have seen this on every 5GHz "Lite" AP we have installed. We have RMA'd all 
of them to date that we didn't wait too long to deal with. The problem was 
clear upon initial installation, it did not occur over time. We have never seen 
it on a non-"Lite" model. We just don't buy them anymore, especially since now 
we are onto 450i.


        Matt Hopkins
      Network Administrator
      [email protected]
      onlinenw.com  



On 8/31/2016 4:24 PM, George Skorup wrote:

  Yes. I have a handful of APs that show all SM uplink SSRs imbalanced. All 
3.65, IIRC. Downlink SSR is fine. Uplink rates still run MIMO-B. Maybe it's a 
calibration issue on those APs. And yes, I have noticed it since the day they 
were installed. We haven't bothered to replace them. And I just haven't had 
time to dig into it. 

  I'll just say that even though an SM's session may show 8.0dB B-A, SNRs look 
normal (35B, 35A for example). That's on the AP session page, power tab. And 
yes, that's with the SM actively passing traffic. Is it a real problem or 
cosmetic, perhaps due to a calibration issue? I don't have a clue. 

  On 8/31/2016 4:12 PM, Darren Shea wrote: 

    Has anyone else had an issue with Cambium PMP450 APs where one of the 
    polarities starts to get weaker - it's hard to detect until someone has an 
    issue, but it usually manifests for us as a sudden, drastic change in the 
    Signal Strength Ratio (V-H) on the AP, for all connected SMs. Normally, 
it's 
    pretty close to zero, as long as there is traffic, but when the problem 
    manifests, the typical value will shoot up to anywhere from 8 to 20dB 
    (absolute value, since sometimes it's the Vertical Polarity, other times 
    it's the Horizontal). I built an MRTG tracking page for this value for a 
few 
    LUIDs on each AP, and it has brought the problem to our attention for some 
    APs, but we only catch it when we are looking, and the fact the values are 
    unpredictable if no traffic is flowing makes this a difficult graph to 
    read.. 

    Here's the thing - we've had six APs with this issue. We take them down and 
    replace just the AP (same sector antenna, it doesn't get moved, same 
antenna 
    leads, etc.), and it always fixes the problem. We have also done bench 
tests 
    on the troubled APs, taking care to keep every single thing about the test 
    precisely the same, other than the AP, and we can duplicate the same 
failure 
    mode - it follows the AP, and the AP alone. Unfortunately, even though 
    there's a common failure mode, these didn't all have the decency to fail 
    during their first year of service, and we haven't had any luck getting 
them 
    repaired, either. Are we seeing something unique, or has this happened to 
    anyone else? 

    Just wondering 
    ��� -- Darren 







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