Oh admit it.. you spend half your day on Reddit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start talking to some humans rather than my cat.. On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about > config. > I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting > on this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >> You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some >> solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. >> They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty >> easy to see if it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one >> a shot and I can set it up for you. >> >> On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people >>> who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB. >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>> To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like >>>> linking together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then >>>> tying them to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem >>>> with torrenters is that some portion of them are smart enough to >>>> use a VPN, which leaves you with little recourse. But you're >>>> probably not getting any DMCA complaints about them anyway.. >>>> >>>> On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>> That's good to know. >>>>> Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? >>>>> I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of >>>>> the mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work >>>>> (anymore?) and the ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. >>>>> I don't know if it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep >>>>> getting asked about. >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>> Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying >>>>>> list on most of the licensing, and they won't support the >>>>>> hardware if it fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so >>>>>> as well (it's still supported for a while afterwards, but that's >>>>>> the typical cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a newer >>>>>> chassis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a >>>>>> bigger chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>> I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with >>>>>>> Barracuda or Procera or both. >>>>>>> Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support >>>>>>> contract/license for it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> To: mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one >>>>>>>> company, sell it to another company and then they get a new >>>>>>>> license. Basically, if I bought Gino's unit, I would have to >>>>>>>> pay him and he would pay Barracuda. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? >>>>>>>> Just curious … or is it that their license is non transferable >>>>>>>> same as some other companies (ie. Cisco) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM >>>>>>>>> To: af >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we >>>>>>>>> decommissioned and they charged us pretty much the full price >>>>>>>>> as if it were brand new. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> To: "af" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would >>>>>>>>> be talking. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino >>>>>>>>> Villarini >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Animal Farm >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Af >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM >>>>>>>>> To: af >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum >>>>>>>>> to start. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: "af" <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there >>>>>>>>> recurring costs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Simon Westlake >>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>>>> Email:[email protected] >>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>>>> https://sonar.software/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Westlake >>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>> Email:[email protected] >>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>> https://sonar.software/ >> >> -- >> Simon Westlake >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> Email:[email protected] >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> --------------------------- >> Sonar Software Inc >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> https://sonar.software -- Simon Westlake Skype: Simon_Sonar Email: [email protected] Phone: (702) 447-1247 --------------------------- Sonar Software Inc The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
