But you have a cat! It must be true. Don't burn out. I saw someone else literally who coded as much as you burn out and have a mental breakdown of epic proportions never to recover.
Oh.. Iphone for family - Android for work. Have one of each and your problem is solved. Either way the NSA is watching. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:17:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs Not anymore, the sad truth is I spend about 18 hours a day coding right now. Still got a lot to do! On 10/6/2016 1:13 PM, Steve wrote: > Oh admit it.. you spend half your day on Reddit. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> > To: "af" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:36:47 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs > > I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists to maintain > some illusion of human contact. I found myself ranting at the bus stop > about Android vs iPhones the other day, so thought I'd better start > talking to some humans rather than my cat.. > > On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their support staff about >> config. >> I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar. What are you doing chatting >> on this mailing list anyway? Get back to work man! >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>> You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some >>> solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools. >>> They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty >>> easy to see if it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one >>> a shot and I can set it up for you. >>> >>> On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>> Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people >>>> who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB. >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>> To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like >>>>> linking together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then >>>>> tying them to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem >>>>> with torrenters is that some portion of them are smart enough to >>>>> use a VPN, which leaves you with little recourse. But you're >>>>> probably not getting any DMCA complaints about them anyway.. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>> That's good to know. >>>>>> Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic? >>>>>> I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of >>>>>> the mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work >>>>>> (anymore?) and the ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. >>>>>> I don't know if it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep >>>>>> getting asked about. >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>> Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying >>>>>>> list on most of the licensing, and they won't support the >>>>>>> hardware if it fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so >>>>>>> as well (it's still supported for a while afterwards, but that's >>>>>>> the typical cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a newer >>>>>>> chassis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a >>>>>>> bigger chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>>> I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with >>>>>>>> Barracuda or Procera or both. >>>>>>>> Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support >>>>>>>> contract/license for it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>> To: mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one >>>>>>>>> company, sell it to another company and then they get a new >>>>>>>>> license. Basically, if I bought Gino's unit, I would have to >>>>>>>>> pay him and he would pay Barracuda. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them? >>>>>>>>> Just curious … or is it that their license is non transferable >>>>>>>>> same as some other companies (ie. Cisco) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And they won't let you transfer it to another company either. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: af >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we >>>>>>>>>> decommissioned and they charged us pretty much the full price >>>>>>>>>> as if it were brand new. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To: "af" mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would >>>>>>>>>> be talking. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino >>>>>>>>>> Villarini >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Animal Farm >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Af >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: af >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum >>>>>>>>>> to start. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: "af" <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there >>>>>>>>>> recurring costs? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Simon Westlake >>>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>>>>> Email:[email protected] >>>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>>>>> https://sonar.software/ >>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Westlake >>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>>> Email:[email protected] >>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>>> --------------------------- >>>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>>> https://sonar.software/ >>> -- >>> Simon Westlake >>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>> Email:[email protected] >>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>> --------------------------- >>> Sonar Software Inc >>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>> https://sonar.software -- Simon Westlake Skype: Simon_Sonar Email: [email protected] Phone: (702) 447-1247 --------------------------- Sonar Software Inc The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
