Certainly no boy scout.  

We have all known men that talk like that at times.  And when we were teenagers 
we spoke like that at times.  

But in my experience, most captains of business and industry that I personally 
know or have known have never talked like that unless it was a private dinner 
or golf outing with too many cocktails and I don’t really recall any of those 
that rose to this level.  

There was a Wasco County, Oregon gravel road crew that were that bad while I 
was fixing a phone line they ripped out.  Perhaps I have always circulated in 
sheltered spheres.  I don’t think that is so.  I just don’t think normal men 
think and say that kind of stuff on a regular basis.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:07 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

Sorry..but I don't see the blind trust for his business acumen...another of his 
casinos closed this morning...lots of folks will be without jobs,,,no slant 
here...I know he sold it to Icahn..but he started with loans based on junk 
bonds and all.   he has stiffed several contractors and many lawsuits still in 
the works.   He has hired illegal aliens from many countries for his 
construction and hotel interests...those are facts...he knocks trade deals yet 
he has products made overseas...fact....he admitted to tax thing and the help 
with us dummies that pay taxes every year...he uses bankruptcy when he 
fails....the doesn't matter who gets hurt....i could have declared bankruptcy 
in 2002-2004 but I stuck it out and paid my debts...lost my savings but I paid 
them , never stiffed vendors, employees or distributors...so no I am not 
impressed with him at all....I think what that tape revealed is bad, thinking 
he can grope women cause he is rich? Fuck Him....but worse and something I find 
more sickening is what he has said about his daughter to Howard Stern and 
others...How can any decent man say that about his own daughter?   I would not 
do what DeNiro said about punching him the face....I would kick his balls so 
they would never work again...yes I said it.   he is a piece of shit..I think I 
am insulting shit when I say it.

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  yep...guess thats why i was rowdy in my youth


  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390


  On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Still Spanish, of course, don't tell the Basque that. They are still 
seeking to beak away. At least the part in Spanish territory.

    On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:25 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Yep... In a way... My European ancestors came from Basque area 
actually... 


      On Oct 10, 2016 9:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

        I dunno, I’ll bet you have Spanish blood in you....

        From: Jaime Solorza 
        Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:08 AM
        To: Animal Farm 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

        Decorum, decency, character.... Where did they go?    I agree, we are 
in bad place with the choices we have... But spooky part is how we got here.... 
You Republican guys had an army of candidates... All better choices than 
Fuckwad Trump, even Prick Perry or Cruz, yuk.... But no... And the loyalty no 
matter what he does reminds me of Hitler and his followers... On other side.. 
Sanders was better choice but Hillary had more going for her... Can't say I  
happy about it, but she is smarter than Trump.   Johnson needs a class on 
current events.    I pray for our country... Lincoln ,Reagan and Kennedy are 
spinning away... Like I said before.. New source of clean energy 
        ..and on side note... I wish the aliens that followed Columbus's fleet 
had sunk them... Oh well. 


        On Oct 10, 2016 8:44 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

          “We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though 
passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic 
chords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they will be, by the 
better angels of our nature.”  

              Abraham Lincoln, first inaugural address.  An effort to stave off 
the Civil war.  

          Of the presidents I have been aware of during my short life, in my 
opinion only the following would have had the temperament to  have penned the 
quote:
          Kennedy
          Regan
          Perhaps Bill Clinton
          Maybe Obama but probably not.

          And then this:

          Executive Mansion,
          Washington, Nov. 21, 1864.

          Dear Madam,

          I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of 
the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who 
have died gloriously on the field of battle.
          I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should 
attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot 
refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks 
of the Republic they died to save.
          I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your 
bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and 
the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the 
altar of Freedom.

          Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,
          A. Lincoln.

          Mrs. Bixby.



          Neither of our candidates could do this.  They could get an aide to 
perhaps pen something similar, but if you consider their heart, neither possess 
this type of heartfelt caring or duty to serve.  

          Wouldn’t it be nice to have a president that truly has these kinds of 
thoughts and feelings?
          Someone that could be a role model for kids.  
          I wonder if it will ever happen again.  



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