Amen.
(I was actually hoping the ACA would bring insurance to low
income folks. Didn’t happen. I personally know a handful
that tried and could not get something they could afford.
Even the low cost packages had deductable like $1500. Stay
poor and stay on Medicaid was my advice to them...)
*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
The trouble with facts is the government is in charge of
keeping them so it is very difficult to get a real picture
of what has or is going on.
What is a surplus? well, most administrations that I
remember state that they have a surplus when the money they
spent was less than they were going to spend or the money
they were going to spend was less than what they took in.
None of how the government accounts for money would work for
anyone who can't print their own. It doesn't matter who is
in charge, it is extremely difficult to plow through all the
BS they throw up to get to the real numbers. Doesn't matter
if it is deportations and what counts as one, "saving money"
and what counts as that, some word called winning which I'll
be damned if I know what that means anymore. Trump uses that
word a lot but I am not sure he can explain what he mans by it.
I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so hard to
imagine that we are in this mess. But democracy is messy.
The good news is that the president can hardly ruin
everything without a lot of cooperation. Even Obama could
barely get healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these
characters are so well hated by so many I can't imagine they
will be able to do anything but appoint people and make
executive orders.
Of course, it is better for the economy when congress can't
pass laws anyway.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews
<[email protected]> wrote:
The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump is there
to make others
look good _BY Comparison_... When looked at on absolute
scales other
things may be observed...
On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in
the world; as
> opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has
served no one other
> than himself or his "companies".
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation...
>>
>> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote
and passed the
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out
that it takes two to
>>> tango.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it... BC was just
lucky to be sitting
>>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a
god.. Then he
>>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come
along in 50 years
>>>> against advice on the last few days of his
presidency.. Not inspiring
>>>> in any way... But we are now wedged and your
advice is correct. We
>>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't
pull a BC on her
>>>> last days in office.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the
tech boom and the
>>>>> advent
>>>>> of the commercial internet. That is what produced
the surplus, he
>>>>> just
>>>>> lucked out. His decisions to deregulate mortgage
banking is what
>>>>> brought us all back down in 2008.
>>>>> I have told former business partners (upon
learning of their
>>>>> infidelity)
>>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell
will cheat me.
>>>>> In my mind the game is over. 4 years of watching
something that could
>>>>> have been so much better lies ahead. Been through
it before, can
>>>>> endure
>>>>> it again.
>>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form
of governments....
>>>>> except for all the others.
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state
facts.....not
>>>>> shit you
>>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch..
>>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't
mince words)
>>>>> balanced the
>>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he
didn't do it
>>>>> BFM...(By
>>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took
both sides to get
>>>>> those
>>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do
anyways, but he
>>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the
Republican resistance,
>>>>> got
>>>>> us out of the recession. Trump used the
recession to make
>>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's
movie)...Trump keeps blaming
>>>>> Obama
>>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like
our Texas Board of
>>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no
matter who does
>>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents
cheated on their
>>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner for
just
>>>>> that...cheating
>>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school,
but if a man
>>>>> cheats on
>>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in
that relationship?
>>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on
this list allot
>>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read
anything on this list
>>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because you
are rich or a
>>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters
voluptuous ...NBC
>>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme
pressure from social
>>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the
media is what
>>>>> will do
>>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING
REALITY SHOW YOU MORON
>>>>> TRUMP!!! I know those who approve of him will
stay loyal up to the
>>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it
again...It reminds of
>>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but
didn't give a
>>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great
Again dream will not
>>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping
giant.....too many of
>>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as
you want to change
>>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not
work......lets see how it
>>>>> plays
>>>>> out on November 8th....
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless
Administrator
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE
YEARS.____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your
country can do for
>>>>> you, ask
>>>>> what you can do for your country.”____*
>>>>>
>>>>> *____*
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT !
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> *$19,493,291,113,808____*
>>>>>
>>>>> *____*
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the
other issues matter.
>>>>> I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt
someone’s
>>>>> feelings on
>>>>> the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve B.____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>>> ____
>>>>>
>>>
>
