How can you not like American Cheese?  What do you use to make grilled cheese 
sandwiches?  What do you put on cheezburgers?

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

As much as we love cheese here, how did we get the crappiest pseudo-cheese 
named after us?

On Monday, October 10, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Mmmmmm, American Cheese.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');> ] On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

Canada is building a wall.... very quietly... out of American Cheese.  

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:49 PM

To: Animal Farm 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

Hey I think Canada might invades us... Rump insulted their health care 
system.... 

 

On Oct 10, 2016 3:28 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> > wrote:

I dunno, I’ll ask.

 

From: Travis Johnson 

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:27 PM

To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

Hi,

Just curious, do you know what her tax rates are like? It seems like the money 
has to come from somewhere for National Health Care, so I'm curious if it's 
part of their income tax structure, or somewhere else?

Travis

On 10/10/2016 3:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Some things should not see competition.  

Municipal water and sewer systems for example.  Streets, roads and highways.  

One can make a pretty good argument for the power company.  Gas company.  

Less so for Telco and CATV.  

 

So what is healthcare?  Similar to national defense?  We already have 5-6 
branches of the armed forces duplicating services there.

Similar to public education?  We have competition there too.  (Are the Merchant 
Marine their own branch?)

 

I have a daughter that lives in England.  She loves the National Health System. 
 And they have private doctors if they want them too.  

 

Somebody will win a nobel prize in economics if they can model this and produce 
the correct answer.  

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 2:47 PM

To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

I struggle to recall much of anything that thrives, innovates, and is efficient 
without competition.

 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> > wrote:

I still think that it would be better with a single payer system like what's in 
use in most other countries in the world.

Problem is we would have to figure out how to do that without letting the 
government administer it.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 10/10/2016 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Amen.

 

(I was actually hoping the ACA would bring insurance to low income folks.  
Didn’t happen.  I personally know a handful that tried and could not get 
something they could afford.  Even the low cost packages had deductable like 
$1500.  Stay poor and stay on Medicaid was my advice to them...)

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 2:17 PM

To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics

 

The trouble with facts is the government is in charge of keeping them so it is 
very difficult to get a real picture of what has or is going on. 

What is a surplus? well, most administrations that I remember state that they 
have a surplus when the money they spent was less than they were going to spend 
or the money they were going to spend was less than what they took in. 

 

None of how the government accounts for money would work for anyone who can't 
print their own. It doesn't matter who is in charge, it is extremely difficult 
to plow through all the BS they throw up to get to the real numbers. Doesn't 
matter if it is deportations and what counts as one, "saving money" and what 
counts as that, some word called winning which I'll be damned if I know what 
that means anymore. Trump uses that word a lot but I am not sure he can explain 
what he mans by it.

 

I just had to turn the debate off. It is just so hard to imagine that we are in 
this mess. But democracy is messy. The good news is that the president can 
hardly ruin everything without a lot of cooperation. Even Obama could barely 
get healthcare passed with both houses. Both of these characters are so well 
hated by so many I can't imagine they will be able to do anything but appoint 
people and make executive orders.

 

Of course, it is better for the economy when congress can't pass laws anyway.

 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','i...@avantwireless.com');> > wrote:

The jist of what I said earlier is that Trump is there to make others
look good _BY Comparison_...   When looked at on absolute scales other
things may be observed...

On 10/10/2016 12:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> The Clinton Foundation has actually done some good in the world; as
> opposed to the other guy's. His "Foundation" has served no one other
> than himself or his "companies".
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/10/2016 12:48 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> Yep and that was the start of the Clinton Foundation...
>>
>> On 10/10/2016 12:41 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Don't forget it was a republican congress that wrote and passed the
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> I'm not taking him off the hook, just pointing out that it takes two to
>>> tango.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 10/10/2016 12:35 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>> Once again, Chuck, you nailed it...   BC was just lucky to be sitting
>>>> on a mountain of money and it made him look like a god.. Then he
>>>> signed the dumbest piece of legislature to come along in 50 years
>>>> against advice on the last few days of his presidency..  Not inspiring
>>>> in any way...   But we are now wedged and your advice is correct.  We
>>>> will survive another 4 years and hope she doesn't pull a BC on her
>>>> last days in office.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2016 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>> Bill Clinton just happened to coincide with the tech boom and the
>>>>> advent
>>>>> of the commercial internet.  That is what produced the surplus, he
>>>>> just
>>>>> lucked out.  His decisions to deregulate mortgage banking is what
>>>>> brought us all back down in 2008.
>>>>> I have told former business partners (upon learning of their
>>>>> infidelity)
>>>>> if you will cheat on your spouse you sure as hell will cheat me.
>>>>> In my mind the game is over.  4 years of watching something that could
>>>>> have been so much better lies ahead.  Been through it before, can
>>>>> endure
>>>>> it again.
>>>>> Winston Churchill said Democracy is the WORST form of governments....
>>>>> except for all the others.
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 11:37 AM
>>>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Politics
>>>>> Now you sound like my Trump loving buddy....state facts.....not
>>>>> shit you
>>>>> hear from Hannity, OReilly, Limbaugh and bunch..
>>>>> Bill Clinton (An unfaithful husband....I don't mince words)
>>>>> balanced the
>>>>> budget and we had a surplus....a Democrat..but he didn't do it
>>>>> BFM...(By
>>>>> Fucking Magic for you hard of hearing)...it took both sides to get
>>>>> those
>>>>> things going....Knock Obama all you want, you do anyways, but he
>>>>> inherited a shit storm and even with all the Republican resistance,
>>>>> got
>>>>> us out of the recession.   Trump used the recession to make
>>>>> money..(fact...like Potter in Capra's movie)...Trump keeps blaming
>>>>> Obama
>>>>> for ISIS!!! really.....lets revise history like our Texas Board of
>>>>> Education does all the time.....Wrong is wrong, no matter who does
>>>>> it....Clinton, Trump, Kennedy and other presidents cheated on their
>>>>> wives...I bought out my first business partner for just
>>>>> that...cheating
>>>>> on his wife and children...Guess I am old school, but if a man
>>>>> cheats on
>>>>> those close to him, where the hell do I stand in that relationship?
>>>>> Goes to character and morals.....yes we joke on this list allot
>>>>> including sexual ones....but I have never read anything on this list
>>>>> about thinking its okay to grope women because you are rich or a
>>>>> celebrity...or worse call one of you daughters voluptuous ...NBC
>>>>> suspended Billy Bush but only after extreme pressure from social
>>>>> media....Chump says he uses it and in the end the media is what
>>>>> will do
>>>>> him in....Listen carefully..THIS IS NO FUCKING REALITY SHOW YOU MORON
>>>>> TRUMP!!!   I know those who approve of him will stay loyal up to the
>>>>> election....Like I said before and I say it again...It reminds of
>>>>> Hitlers followers....they knew it was wrong but didn't give a
>>>>> shit....sorry muchachos, that Make America Great Again dream will not
>>>>> ever be back again, keeping kicking the sleeping giant.....too many of
>>>>> us are educated now and we can vote....as much as you want to change
>>>>> voting laws to keep us out, it will not work......lets see how it
>>>>> plays
>>>>> out on November 8th....
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390 <tel:%28915%29%20861-1390> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Wireless Administrator
>>>>> <wirel...@htn.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wirel...@htn.net');> > 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT POLITICS OVER THE YEARS.____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     *“My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for
>>>>> you, ask
>>>>>     what you can do for your country.”____*
>>>>>
>>>>>     *____*
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     AND THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF A DOEMCRAT !
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL DEBT OF:____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     *$19,493,291,113,808____*
>>>>>
>>>>>     *____*
>>>>>
>>>>>     It’s hard for me to believe that ANY of the other issues matter.
>>>>>     I’m not afraid of a president that might hurt someone’s
>>>>> feelings on
>>>>>     the way to fixing the mess we’re in. ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     Steve B.____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>>>     ____
>>>>>
>>>
>

 

 

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