Note, Ive never looked directly at our reseller agreements terms and conditions, it could be legally wrangled in our favor already, but I cant see any reason for a provider to blanket us
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:28 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < [email protected]> wrote: > One of the providers bills the customer directly, we just get commission, > I assume that leaves us free of the potential issue? > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You still have to file a bunch of paperwork and are subject to rules like >> CPNI and possibly outage reporting, plus surprise surprise, you still have >> to pay some fees like TRS and NANP. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:16 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP >> >> >> >> Something like that. IANAL either, but I think there are still lots of >> people flying under the radar on this issue. If the underlying carrier is >> doing the taxes and USF and such then there might not be any red flag there >> where somebody would notice. >> >> >> >> That doesn't mean your compliant with the law and it doesn't mean the >> *correct* taxes are being paid. >> >> >> >> I did learn at one point that if your USF contributions total less than >> $10,000 / year that you're a "de minimus" provider and you're just supposed >> to keep the money. You might want to look into getting it done >> right....There must be a level of volume where the legal and accounting >> expense is covered by the USF fees you would have to collect. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <*[email protected]* <[email protected]>> >> >> To: *[email protected]* <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: 10/13/2016 11:41:42 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP >> >> >> >> IANAL, but I believe the deciding factor is who bills the customer for >> the voice services. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:29 AM >> *To:* *[email protected]* <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] reselling SIP >> >> >> >> We resell some SIP trunks with PBX we install on our contract services >> side. We are not the SIP provider in any way, but we do get paid. if its >> traversing our ISP network does that technically make us a voice provider, >> or are we still able to hide out as an ISP >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
