Trump loves using the media and just check how much attention he got since
his speech from stairs of his palace... He took advantage of free publicity
and now even questions polls?   He threw poll figures in every ones face..
Started his rallies quoting polls.   Now that his own actions and past
assaults have come to light,  he says media is against him.. System
rigged..  I am taking my marbles and going home because he lost game.
Go to visit his Trump hotel in Vegas... He has lots of undocumented folks
working there..  He used a Polish demolition crew and when they complained
about pay and stuff, he threatened to call la migra!!!
God Bless America; and hear this Trump lackeys,  America IS great...

On Oct 20, 2016 7:46 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:

Not in the case of Soros. You can complain that the Koch’s only donate to
conservative candidates but Soros donates to groups that support rioting,
violence, and hatred.  There is a huge difference there.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2016 6:40 AM
*To:* [email protected]

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]



I think Mike is right. Donors are a straw man argument. Everyone has them,
wants more of them, wants bigger donations, yet everyone else's donors are
evil. It would be nice to have a candidate that didn't have them but that
isn't the environment we have.

Maybe if there was a license requirement or something that some amount of
time was required for political crap and no other media buys were possible
we could make it through an election without gouging our eyes and ears out.



On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:24 AM Tim Reichhart <timreichhart@hometowncable.
net> wrote:

Mike
I think you need to do your research on Soros if you didnt you really dont
have much to say either. Sorry its the truth.

Tim



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To: [email protected]

Date: 10/20/16 09:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

People that bring up Soros or the Koch brothers are immediately punted as
not having anything worthwhile to say.



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 *From:* "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:11:28 AM

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

You all forgot to say the media as been against him and used his words
against him so this is why you dont believe what MSM (main street media)
spits out from there mouths they are all paid by same people (to create
lies). Reason why I say this is because everybody in DC is scared of trump
because they know that there career can be gone very soon. Also George
Soros where do I even start with him....? Basically he came out on video
stating that trump will win the election but Killary is a done deal
basically what that means Killary will get into the WH which is very sad.


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 10/20/16 09:03 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]

Wow. Gentleman. I watched the whole debate, maybe not as intently as some,
but I did watch it. I really didn't see anything to get so upset
about.Hillary turned in the performance expected meaning very good
demeanor, logical well thought out positions. I don't agree with most of
them and evidently "facts" are not what they used to be. Face it, both
these clowns couldn't spot a fact if it slapped them with a cold fish.

Trump. Well, he turned in a much better performance than the previous
debates and if there were 5 he might actually come off pretty good by the
last one. Still submitted to his basic desire to talk about himself and his
stuff. He had some good points but missed opportunities to take Hillary
down a notch by talking about himself. I can't believe he didn't counter
the whole Russian wiki leaks thing with the fact the US pressured to have
Assange shut down after denying it. On the other hand, I don't know anyone
who thought that didn't happen. The US is on record against him already.



They both are living in some fantasy world where you can say and do
whatever you want and it all balances out in the end. Free college? Yea no
problem, costs nothing. Double the size of the military? Why not, growth
covers everything. National debt? Yea we reduced it. What? Its twice what
it was 8 years ago? No it went down?

Every politician does this crap. D and R. I got kicked off a conference
call with our congreeman two years ago for pointing out the ludicrous lack
of math skills he possessed.



Mutt. Thank God we still have the freedom in this country to open our
mouths and prove ourselves the idiots we are. If you want to call the
president a Mutt or most anything else in a gathering of friends go for it.
Anyone hoping to have the office ought to understand the obligation to
treat the office with decorum and respect. The whole rigged thing is just
stupid. I understand where he is coming from with the love fest much of the
media has with anything on the left but come on. So if you win is that
rigged? I believe in voter ID laws but that doesn't mean it is such a huge
problem it is enough to change the course of an election.



In the end, I don't think he did enough to sway the middle 20% or so he
needs half of. What a mess.I wonder what our debt will be after the next 8
years. We are almost to the point now that interest rates will always be
zero. The US government can ill afford "normalized" interest rates due to
the size of the debt. I honestly can't see how anyone's involvement with
running the government can be viewed as positive. What a mess. I really
believe that is why truly worthy people refused to get involved. Nobody
with a great reputation wants to be involved in a no win scenario. Well,
maybe Romney but he is truly an exceptional person. I wish that is what we
had running, exceptional people in a positive way instead f what we have.







On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:45 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:




The Supreme Court did all the intercourse that year.

bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>





On 10/19/2016 9:36 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:




As did Al Gore in 2000?



----- Original Message -----

 *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>

 *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>

 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:41 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT][Politics]



He fucked himself with vote question...



On Oct 19, 2016 8:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

Goes to character...cheat on wife cheat on all



On Oct 19, 2016 8:13 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't know. I don't about laughing. I think they are likely shocked and
fearful.





On Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 9:07 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:


We have two lying, cheating, disrespectful sociopaths on stage right now.
Neither one can answer a straight question with a straight answer.

They BOTH likely belong in jail, not running for the highest office in the
United States.

This is terrible. Disgraceful. We are the laughing stock of the world.

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