Yup agree…. we have a couple of locations where there are many dozens of twinax 
cables used and same issue

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Cable management and sometimes airflow.They're much larger diameter than sm 
> or mm, require a larger bend radius than bend insensitive fiber, and you 
> can't exactly cut them to length. If you just have a few uplink DACs you can 
> make them work, but if you have a rack full of fiber strands and then throw 
> in a few dozen DACs, after awhile you're just like "this is stupid..., brb 
> grabbing some sfp+'s...".
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016 9:31 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> How is a DAC harder to manage?
> 
> 
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> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:26:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time...
> 
> Well, I used to like DACs. Not so much anymore.
> 
> Some of it has to do with cable organization, and inventory is the other 
> angle.
> 
> Having transceivers and patches around is utilitarian. Having DACs around is 
> slightly cheaper, but those DACs are much harder to deal with from a cable 
> management perspective.
> 
> I don't hate DACs, I just dislike the tradeoffs.
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016 7:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Anything that doesn't support DACs is fucking worthless.
> 
> 
> I've ditched all ad-block, privacy, etc. extensions. They're garbage.
> 
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> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:50:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time...
> 
> I complained about the DAC issue during the Alpha, as I just wanted to plug 
> in the switch to a Juniper MX960 and throw some of the VM load on it. Sadly I 
> ended up having to use short patch cables and fiberstore transceivers, which 
> worked fine.
> 
> I didn't experience the crashes the author did, although I "whitelist" all my 
> hardware interfaces in my browser extensions... Maybe that was his/her issue, 
> I don't know.
> 
> Side note: the was about 6 months back
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016 7:33 AM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> The good news:  kit gets reviewed on a major IT website.
> The bad news: kit gets reviewed on a major IT website.
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/27/ubiquiti_edgeswitch_review/ 
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/27/ubiquiti_edgeswitch_review/>
> Mark
> 
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