+1 SFP+ MM modules and cable are dirt cheap and are a lot easier to work with.
Even the few DAC we use plug up the raceway and cable management worse than Ethernet. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time... Yup agree…. we have a couple of locations where there are many dozens of twinax cables used and same issue On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Cable management and sometimes airflow.They're much larger diameter than sm or mm, require a larger bend radius than bend insensitive fiber, and you can't exactly cut them to length. If you just have a few uplink DACs you can make them work, but if you have a rack full of fiber strands and then throw in a few dozen DACs, after awhile you're just like "this is stupid..., brb grabbing some sfp+'s...". On Oct 27, 2016 9:31 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: How is a DAC harder to manage? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:26:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time... Well, I used to like DACs. Not so much anymore. Some of it has to do with cable organization, and inventory is the other angle. Having transceivers and patches around is utilitarian. Having DACs around is slightly cheaper, but those DACs are much harder to deal with from a cable management perspective. I don't hate DACs, I just dislike the tradeoffs. On Oct 27, 2016 7:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Anything that doesn't support DACs is fucking worthless. I've ditched all ad-block, privacy, etc. extensions. They're garbage. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:50:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time... I complained about the DAC issue during the Alpha, as I just wanted to plug in the switch to a Juniper MX960 and throw some of the VM load on it. Sadly I ended up having to use short patch cables and fiberstore transceivers, which worked fine. I didn't experience the crashes the author did, although I "whitelist" all my hardware interfaces in my browser extensions... Maybe that was his/her issue, I don't know. Side note: the was about 6 months back On Oct 27, 2016 7:33 AM, "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The good news: kit gets reviewed on a major IT website. The bad news: kit gets reviewed on a major IT website. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/27/ubiquiti_edgeswitch_review/ Mark
