Frontier claims to sell 20 Mbps where they have fiber fed remote DSLAMS. I think that's maybe something like 2 bonded pairs using ADSL2+.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Old copper could make a return on those numbers. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. <x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> Franklin, IN 46131 <x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> 317-738-0320 <tel:317-738-0320> Daytime # 317-412-1540 <tel:317-412-1540> Cell/Direct # Online: <x-apple-msg-load://68048308-1E15-4E65-B1FD-E468DF7B3B2F/www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/VDSL2_Snelheid.gif> From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:45 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Make that G.fast <https://networks.nokia.com/sites/live/files/pr1506012158_graphic.jpg> From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:41 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Well, don't presume it is "crap" copper. Most telcos take pretty good care of their copper, most non RBOC telcos that is. In any event if the loops are short, like 2000 feet or less, 50 Mbps is doable. More with V.FAST. From: Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:38 PM To: memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] CAF FUNDING & DSL SPEEDS Was just pondering the question... Not sure I know the answer... so perhaps one of you do. With all the CAF funding in play. What is the highest any rural dsl customer can get if these providers are only upgrading the fiber and dslams? Meaning... it's still crap copper to the house. What can they actually push to the home without running fiber to it directly? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. <x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> Franklin, IN 46131 <x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> 317-738-0320 <tel:317-738-0320> Daytime # 317-412-1540 <tel:317-412-1540> Cell/Direct # Online: <x-apple-msg-load://68048308-1E15-4E65-B1FD-E468DF7B3B2F/www.surfici.net> www.surfici.net Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!