portforward.com - thank them On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
> I never really understood that part neither in all honesty … a lot of > articles indicated default passwords with telnet enabled for example - but > didn’t see a lot about *how* those devices are becoming reachable as you > point out… > > On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > There was an article about a new IoT botnet malware yesterday and I was > reading all the comments from people discussing what firewall they should > get to block this. > > I’m not understanding. Even a basic NAT router should do the job unless > you configure port forwards or what I suspect is the real culprit is UPnP > creating port forwards for telnet and SSH by default. So just disable UPnP > on the router you have. > > I can’t understand how all these webcams and toasters are accepting > inbound connections directly on public IPs. It has to be UPnP on by > default and installation by consumers who haven’t a clue what port > forwarding or UPnP is. I’m guessing most people actually putting these on > a DMZ know enough to change the passwords, create firewall rules, and block > services like telnet/SSH. > > Many consumer webcams like Nestcams use a cloud service for remote access, > obviously they have a web interface for setup, I would hope they don’t by > default use UPnP to forward a bunch of ports through the router. > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Stewart > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:47 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home > > LOL .. not mine - they are secure :) I actually spent several hours doing > security scanning in my house last weekend to make sure there wasn’t some > “default” access that a vendor left open … > > > On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > With all of these DDoSes lately, those cameras will need all of the upload > they can get. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> > > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:38:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home > > So perhaps on difference there is that you can do one single stream of > Netflix .. but in my household during the evenings there is typically 3-4 > streams at once = ~16Mb/s > > Just an example of what some folks consider “need” > > Another reason for increased upload speed is home security cameras and > stuff if you are storing on cloud …. I’m going to be faced with that > shortly myself where I estimate 4-6Mb/s needed at various times (motion > activated) to capture high quality video > > > > On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Sam Morris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have 5/1 at home and can do everything I need to do, including Netflix. > > > > On 11/2/2016 9:48 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > >> What? 20/5 (or less) is still very adequate for *lots* of users. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Roger Timmerman <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> Is this a re-run from 2005? Are we really talking about 20M/5M or > >> less still being an option and being adequate? > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote: > >> > >> That could be part of it. I work from home with 3m/1m. It's > >> not uncommon to have a kid watching cartoons on Netflix while > >> I'm working. > >> > >> The thing is, most of what I'm doing across the network is > >> remote terminals and remote desktops. And I'm clever enough > >> that when I need to transfer a large file to the office I'll use > >> WinSCP and put a speed limit on the transfer so I can keep doing > >> other things. Some people might start the big file transfer and > >> then call IT because nothing else works now. > >> > >> I'm aware that there are people using some Autodesk cloud > >> storage/versioning thing that integrates with AutoCAD....they > >> were told to /try /to get 10meg upload /if they can/ and I > >> believe they might really use it. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11/2/2016 12:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > >>> I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal > >>> with people causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs > >>> while they're trying to work, so they just tell them they need > >>> five times the speed they actually do. > >>> > >>> We've had customers that were told they needed something like > >>> 3Mbps upload, but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on > >>> a plan with 1Mbps upload. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza > >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good > >>> upstream to upload medical scans she does for several > >>> clinics and private doctors from house or retirement > >>> places. She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate > >>> her. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective > >>> customers say they needed a minimum of 20M/5M per > >>> company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on the 5M > >>> upstream. > >>> > >>> This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and > >>> seems high to me. In many cases even in town on cable > >>> Internet, they will need at least a plan with at least > >>> 50M download to get that much upload. My experience > >>> in the past has been that even our 3M/1M plan is > >>> actually sufficient for most people to work from home > >>> (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of the > >>> family trying to watch Netflix and Youtube). > >>> > >>> Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much > >>> upstream to work from home? Or just a coincidence > >>> I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many weeks. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
