Not for the purpose of as WISP claiming to be an unsubsidized competitor to an 
ILEC.  10/1 plus telco grade pots.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:59 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

is FCC definition of broadband 25x5 or 25x3 ???

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  The FCC says 10/1 is adequate...

  From: Roger Timmerman 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:46 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BW to work from home

  Is this a re-run from 2005?  Are we really talking about 20M/5M or less still 
being an option and being adequate?

  On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

    That could be part of it.  I work from home with 3m/1m.  It's not uncommon 
to have a kid watching cartoons on Netflix while I'm working.

    The thing is, most of what I'm doing across the network is remote terminals 
and remote desktops.  And I'm clever enough that when I need to transfer a 
large file to the office I'll use WinSCP and put a speed limit on the transfer 
so I can keep doing other things.  Some people might start the big file 
transfer and then call IT because nothing else works now.

    I'm aware that there are people using some Autodesk cloud 
storage/versioning thing that integrates with AutoCAD....they were told to try 
to get 10meg upload if they can and I believe they might really use it.





    On 11/2/2016 12:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

      I think a lot of it is just lazy IT guys not wanting to deal with people 
causing problems by watching Netflix on six TVs while they're trying to work, 
so they just tell them they need five times the speed they actually do. 

      We've had customers that were told they needed something like 3Mbps 
upload, but were able to do their jobs perfectly fine on a plan with 1Mbps 
upload.


      On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Nope... Getting more common... My daughter needs good upstream to 
upload medical scans she does for several clinics and private doctors from 
house or retirement places.   She had to upgrade plan from TWC to accommodate 
her.    


        On Nov 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

          Twice in the past few weeks I’ve had prospective customers say they 
needed a minimum of 20M/5M per company IT dept to work from home, emphasis on 
the 5M upstream.



          This is a lot more than I’ve heard in the past, and seems high to me. 
 In many cases even in town on cable Internet, they will need at least a plan 
with at least 50M download to get that much upload.  My experience in the past 
has been that even our 3M/1M plan is actually sufficient for most people to 
work from home (assuming they aren’t contending with the rest of the family 
trying to watch Netflix and Youtube).



          Is this some kind of a trend, people needing that much upstream to 
work from home?  Or just a coincidence I’ve had 2 requests like that in as many 
weeks.





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