Hah! :)

Mount it next to a "Don't tread on me" flag.

On Nov 8, 2016 8:46 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> You can save a ton of money by not bothering with that pesky coordination
> licensing stuff.  Just put a label on the radio that it is property of the
> sovereign nation of (insert competitors name).
>
> *From:* Hardy, Tim
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 7:43 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
>
> At 11 GHz, 5 km is correct and paths under 5 kms can be coordinated and
> licensed as long as the EIRPs are restricted per the equation.  At 6 GHz,
> the minimum distance is 17 kms. and the same equation applies for paths
> less than this distance.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
>
>
> Hmmmm, can you clarify on minimum distance?  I was not aware of a min
> distance on 11 GHz, but if it’s only 5 km, maybe that was just never an
> issue.  But I thought min distance at 6 GHz was more like 10 miles.  Did I
> miss a change?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 6:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
>
>
> Mostly answered… but I’ll take a stab:
>
>
>
> Class A vs Class B is about side-lobe suppression and F/B ratio.  ETSI
> classes are the same way – and Class 4 antennas as Eric pointed out are a
> rare beast
>
>
>
> -          For 11GHz, the smallest Class A antenna is the VHLP800
> (2.6ft).   Most 3ft antennas are actually a little bit bigger than 3ft
> (99cm)
>
> -          For 18GHz, the smallest Class A antennas I am aware of are 2ft
>
> -          Minimum distance for 11GHz and 6GHz is covered under FCC Part
> § 101.143, with the minimum distance being 5km (roughly 3.12mi).  If you
> want to go shorter, than the max coordinated power you can use is
> calculated like this:
>
>
>
> *EIRP = MAXEIRP–40*log(A/B) dBW *
>
>
>
> EIRP = The new maximum EIRP (equivalent isotropically radiated power) in
> dBW.
>
> MAXEIRP = Maximum EIRP as set forth in the Table in Section 101.113(a). **This
> is +55dBW for 11GHz**
>
> A = Minimum path length from the Table above for the frequency band in
> kilometers.  **This is 5km for 11GHz**
>
> B = The actual path length in kilometers.
>
>
>
> NOTE:  For transmitters using Automatic Transmitter Power Control, EIRP
> corresponds to the maximum transmitter power available, not the coordinated
> transmit power or the nominal transmit power.
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> ConVergence Technologies
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband
> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas
>
>
>
> Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz?  Or is 3 foot the
> minimum.
>
>
>
> Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the
> minimum.
>
>
>
> Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
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