It might as well be a glorified Linksys router. Its a WiFi chip on HGH.

(Mimosa is making some very interesting things - this is not one of them
[to me]. That's just like, my opinion... man.)

On Nov 8, 2016 6:35 AM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

And availability.  The B11’s were available almost a year ago.  Here is
another thing, the B11’s can get up to 480Mbps of real throughput in a
40MHz channel.



Rory



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2016 5:05 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas



Just $1,200+ more per end than an AF11x.

You could buy a pair of Cisco SFPs for that savings! At list price! ;)

(Yes, I understand business case vs product cost, just ribbing you a bit.]



On Nov 8, 2016 6:00 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I haven't bought B11s, just while scouting for options, I *COULD* do B11s.
I could also swap them out later for something else like an AlfoPlus2.

Why would I do a B11? Cheapest 11 GHz link with an SFP.



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*Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 10:51:11 PM
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+1

Inquiring minds.



bp

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On 11/7/2016 8:47 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

If you are in a congested RF environment why on earth would you waste the
spectrum on a B11? It only does 256QAM



On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:42 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

*nods* I asked about going from a 3' to a 6' SHP dish, no go.

That said, I've got a couple paths in HFT central where I can still do
B11s.  :-)





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*From: *"George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com

*Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 7:39:31 PM


*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

My finger clicked send before my brain.

Interestingly, a RadioWaves HP2-11 has 60dB f/b ratio and is a Cat B. While
a HP3-11 has 62dB f/b and is Cat A. The VHLP800-11 has 59dB f/b and is Cat
A while being only 3" smaller in actual diameter vs the HP3-11 (35.5" for a
"2.5" foot antenna, vs a 38.4" 3 foot). But a bit weaker f/b ratio than a
HP2. Both are shrouded. I don't get it. I think there may be something else
like main lobe beamwidth, too.

The problem with all this Cat A vs B stuff is it really doesn't matter
anymore in congested areas. I had Liz look for a 56MHz channel on a path.
She said nope. I said, OK, what about changing the 2' end to a 3'. She
still said nope. Polarity, antenna size, etc., nothing mattered. Out of
channels is out of channels. Good luck with those funky B11's.

On 11/7/2016 7:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Yes. Not a size requirement, just a suppression requirement. It's just what
size of antennas normally meet those requirements.



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IIRC, the classes are about front to back radio and sidelobe suppression.

On 11/7/2016 6:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

2.6' in 11 GHz. I forget who.



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*From: *"SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com>
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*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, November 7, 2016 6:34:03 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Class A and B antennas

Does anyone make a 2 foot Class A antenna for 11 GHz?  Or is 3 foot the
minimum.



Does anyone make a 1 foot Class A antenna for 18 GHz? Or is 2 foot the
minimum.



Is there a minimum distance for a 11 GHz link?



Thanks



Adam

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