Could be. The only examples we have out here, we typically see 4, 6, 8
candidates (at least).
bp
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On 11/10/2016 10:02 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
In true ranked choice voting where you have two equally good choices
which are both favored widely by the electorate, you will almost
always end up with one of the two, as the less favorite candidates are
eliminated.
The situation you describe usually only happens when the top two are
very polarizing. Then often a more moderate candidate will end up
accumulating enough votes from both sides. I would argue that this is
a feature, not a bug.
On Nov 10, 2016 12:01 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've seen what ranked choice did in Oakland, CA where the two
"best" candidates split the vote, and a third not-so-good
candidate appeared as #2 in a majority of votes. The #3 got
elected, and it was a difficult 4 years.
I prefer the "top 2" primary voting method that was instituted a
couple years ago in CA. I would like it better if it was a "top
3", but I think it's had the intended effect. It has encouraged
more candidates to move more to the middle instead of pandering to
the extremes at either end.
bp
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On 11/9/2016 2:38 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I firmly believe that having ranked choice voting in place would
encourage more people to pay attention to all of their choices.
Because the system empowers voters to be able to choose the
candidates they actually want without the risk of splitting the
vote between similar candidates, I believe people would spend a
bit more time becoming aware of their choices instead of picking
the one they hate the most then voting for the other one.
Two examples in this cycle are Johnson and Sanders. I believe
that the libertarian views that Johnson represented is shared
large chunk of the population. I also believe that a lot of the
views that Sanders has has fairly wide appeal as well. Who
knows if either would have been elected, but I know of a lot of
people where one of those two would have been their first choice.
On Nov 9, 2016 4:11 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The problem with the popular vote though, kind of comes back
to what Jefferson said,
"Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of
their own liberty, and that they are not safe unless
enlightened to a certain degree, I have looked on our present
state of liberty as a short-lived possession unless the mass
of the people could be informed to a certain degree."
--Thomas Jefferson to Littleton Waller Tazewell, 1805.
90% of the people in the country really don’t have an
intelligent grasp of the issues and don’t have the critical
thinking skills or the morals/ethics to do the right thing.
Just look at any man on the street interviews by both sides.
They are lucky to find one person who can even recognize a
picture of the vice-president or have any clue who stands on
what side of an issue.
I’m for keeping the electoral college until that gets fixed
and we can guarantee clean elections. Terry McAuliffe giving
60,000 felons the right to vote days before an election and
Barack Obama going on national TV telling illegal aliens to
vote and there will be no repercussions doesn’t give me
confidence that the popular vote is a good idea yet. Not
when one party is willing to break the law to win.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:00 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vote
Agreed. Hillary is up 160k with 98% reporting. Around 6
million third party votes...
On Nov 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This election is a perfect example of why the whole Electoral
vote should be gone. I have been talking about this very
issue for over 20 years, and this election is a prime example
of a flawed system.
I was a Trump supporter, like it or not. I was ready for a
change, and could not stomach the thought of Hillary being
the President. However, if the vote was actually based on the
popular vote count, Hillary would be our new President.
It's amazing how our political system has become so screwed
up over the last 200 years. I am both excited and scared for
the next four years.
Travis
