Yes you can, they also support tons of queueing methods, including fq_codel.
On Nov 24, 2016 2:03 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know what queuing method (and buffer size) Procera (or > Sandvine or Saisei, etc.) use? > > > > I remember asking Procera at a show 1-2 years ago if they had programmable > queue depth and the answer seemed to be no. I was thinking they could > implement traffic shaping rather than policing, but it didn’t sound like it. > > > > I ask for 2 reasons. The downstream network wouldn’t need to handle the > bursts, since they would be smoothed out. And I suspect some of these > misbehaving CDN servers are ignoring packet drops as a congestion > indication unless accompanied by increased round trip latency indicating > buffer fill. The rate limiting methods we use currently on our routers > don’t introduce much delay, and some of the CDNs don’t seem to implement > congestion avoidance until the packet drop rate hits about 45%. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 6:12 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance > > > > Was just an option that was recommended at that timeframe…. not happening > now I’m told > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Procera was/is for sale! > > > > Ouch …. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X-e1TJBzzQ > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:58 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance > > > > One other thing, the specs on the Procera hardware (I assume it’s > basically a rackmount server) require a datacenter or at least controlled > environment, the temperature range is pretty narrow. > > > > Even some towers where we have shelter space, I can’t guarantee the > temperature specs they want. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Stewart > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 12:52 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance > > > > Procera isn’t licensed per user .. it’s licensed based on throughput and > features > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > OK, I think Procera and Sandvine both have a per user cost (maybe a couple > dollars per user) and Procera has a cost for purchasing upfront. My box > which can do a gig of traffic cost $18,000 with the first year of signature > updates and it is like $2500 annually after that. > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Kurt, > > We use PPPoE/Radius to set basic Queues on the Access Servers but want to > do shaping at an application level. Ntop reports are showing an increasing > number of things getting out of control. Windows updates %#@?! for one. > > > > Steve > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:44 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traffic Shaping Appliance > > > > Are you are just looking to shape general traffic to a client (like give > someone a 1.5Mbps plan) then you could use Mikrotik and simple queues which > is very in-expensive. If you want to do some shaping on an application like > only streaming or Windows Updates and stuff like that then that's where > things start to get expensive. I am using the Procera myself for that and > although I havn't tried any of the other brands you mention I am very happy > with the Procera. > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We’re in the market for a traffic shaping appliance and have had a look at > Procera so far. I have a list of vendors/products a have assembled over > time that I was going to look into: > > > > Saisei > > NetEqualizer > > *Packeteer (Bluecoat)* > > *NetEnforcer (Allot)* > > *Network Composer (Cymphonix)* > > *Exinda* > > > > *Anyone care to share experiences on this subject?* > > > > *Steve B.* > > >
