“This is why we can’t have nice things.”

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers

 

I would have to be standing in front of it to tell you.  I think the low input 
voltage may have caused it to draw more current than designed for.  I hope that 
if I open it up I will find a blown fuse or blown trace.  My son saw an arc 
flash coming from inside it when it failed.  It is used to control the speed of 
some blower motors.  

 

From: Jaime Solorza 

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:11 AM

To: Animal Farm 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers

 

What kind of VFD?  

 

On Nov 26, 2016 12:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Yeah, it is a German company and they are pretty stuck on 400/230 Y connection. 
 

It does kinda work on 208 but I think I blew out a VFD by trying it.  

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 5:24 PM

To: af 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers

 

The transformers you are looking for exist:  
https://www.grainger.com/product/ACME-ELECTRIC-General-Purpose-Transformer-49NT19?s_pp=false
 
<https://www.grainger.com/product/ACME-ELECTRIC-General-Purpose-Transformer-49NT19?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/49NR92_AS01?$smthumb$>
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Of course a used one is preferrable.

 

I'm assuming you've done the research to make sure it needs both 400VAC and 240 
to common.   I know at least one machine I have here says it needs 240V, but 
there isn't actually anything 240V on it - it really only needs 120V, 
admittedly at twice the amperage.   I've also seen gear which only needs the 
leg-to-leg voltage, and doesn't use the leg-to-ground voltage.

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:26 PM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
wrote:

So what I shoulda bought was a 240:480 and fed it with 208 for 416 out.  

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:15 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers 

I didn't think the saturation would happen without a load.
Was only considering transformation ratio, dang.  
Never a problem with small signals...

Still need to make 400 volts Y.
I guess I am going to have to do some kind of boost or buck arrangement.  
-----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 
1:10 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase 
transformers 
On 11/25/16 11:49, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

I purchased a used 30 KVA 208/240 2 phase transformer.  208Y 240 delta.



You're feeding 480 into a general purpose transformer that is rated for 240 
(+-10% typical)? You're saturating the core and it's ceasing to be a 
transformer. Even if the breaker doesn't trip it'll probably overheat and burn 
with that much overvoltage.

~Seth





 

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