We work with ABB mostly... They have internal protection...

On Nov 26, 2016 10:20 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

> “This is why we can’t have nice things.”
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers
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> I would have to be standing in front of it to tell you.  I think the low
> input voltage may have caused it to draw more current than designed for.  I
> hope that if I open it up I will find a blown fuse or blown trace.  My son
> saw an arc flash coming from inside it when it failed.  It is used to
> control the speed of some blower motors.
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> *From:* Jaime Solorza
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> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:11 AM
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> *To:* Animal Farm
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers
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> What kind of VFD?
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> On Nov 26, 2016 12:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Yeah, it is a German company and they are pretty stuck on 400/230 Y
> connection.
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> It does kinda work on 208 but I think I blew out a VFD by trying it.
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> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
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> *Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2016 5:24 PM
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> *To:* af
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase transformers
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> The transformers you are looking for exist:  https://www.grainger.com/
> product/ACME-ELECTRIC-General-Purpose-Transformer-49NT19?s_
> pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/
> Grainger/49NR92_AS01?$smthumb$
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> Of course a used one is preferrable.
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> I'm assuming you've done the research to make sure it needs both 400VAC
> and 240 to common.   I know at least one machine I have here says it needs
> 240V, but there isn't actually anything 240V on it - it really only needs
> 120V, admittedly at twice the amperage.   I've also seen gear which only
> needs the leg-to-leg voltage, and doesn't use the leg-to-ground voltage.
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> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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> So what I shoulda bought was a 240:480 and fed it with 208 for 416 out.
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> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November
> 25, 2016 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase
> transformers
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> I didn't think the saturation would happen without a load.
> Was only considering transformation ratio, dang.
> Never a problem with small signals...
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> Still need to make 400 volts Y.
> I guess I am going to have to do some kind of boost or buck arrangement.
> -----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, November 25,
> 2016 1:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3 phase
> transformers
> On 11/25/16 11:49, [email protected] wrote:
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> I purchased a used 30 KVA 208/240 2 phase transformer.  208Y 240 delta.
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> You're feeding 480 into a general purpose transformer that is rated for
> 240 (+-10% typical)? You're saturating the core and it's ceasing to be a
> transformer. Even if the breaker doesn't trip it'll probably overheat and
> burn with that much overvoltage.
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> ~Seth
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