Well if that was the case, then what is different with the  
Surgeprotectors/injectors which would prevent such from happening ?

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:56:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE

> With that said you will likely need a -48v power supply to directly power the
> radio when mounted to a tower. A +48 will work fine when powering it in the
> office. But as soon as it's grounded, that will short the power supply out.
> That is based on my experience. Trango also sells a -48 power supply that is
> wall mount.
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Just to make sure there this is no confusion in the 'lingo'
>> 
>> 820C/IP20c is designed to run on -48v DC (telecom power plant), and the radio
>> gets powder via the Ethernet cable (POE)
>> 
>> The external POE Injector device is presented as a DC-DC converter..
>> The question was is this necessary when using +48vdc power source or just a
>> matter of changing polarity...
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> 
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:56:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>> 
>>> The answer to the question:
>>> 
>>> The 820C runs perfectly fine on -48VDC run directly to the radio.
>>> 
>>> You do not need the POE adapter unless you really want to run them using 
>>> POE.
>>> 
>>> I do not explicitly know if they will run on +48VDC - I believe they will 
>>> but
>>> have not actually tried that.
>>> 
>>> We have quite a few running on -48VDC from Emerson and Eltek rectifier 
>>> shelfs.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> yes
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:13 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Chuck...
>>>> 
>>>> This may be an opportunity to clarify something...
>>>> 
>>>> According to the specs Ceragon IP-20c is a -48vdc radio.
>>>> Their POE box/adapter, takes 48v dc or 24v dc and powers the radio.
>>>> 
>>>> There has not been any clear answer if their Radios will run on regular 
>>>> 48vdc
>>>> directly ...
>>>> There have been folks who have 'tested' the cambium 820 version of these
>>>> plugging directly on the Netonix switches.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, these are not 'in-expensive' radios that I would risk 
>>>> installing
>>>> in-correctly.
>>>> 
>>>> In recommending your injector / surge protector as a solution, my question 
>>>> would
>>>> be.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) can we do -48v dc power via these devices ? it is just a matter of 
>>>> making
>>>> sure the polarity of the dc cable is correct ? or is there more to it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:08:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>> 
>>>>> I am hurt...
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.mccowntech.com/800-gige-poe-outdoor-midspan-poe-injector-ethernet-surge-protector/
>>>>> http://www.mccowntech.com/800-gige-poe-apc-rack-mount-surge-protector-power-inserter/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sheesh!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some suggestions:-
>>>>> 
>>>>> for the POE injector...
>>>>>    you can try a Cambium Reseller.
>>>>>    you can possibly by them on Ebay (shipping from Israel)
>>>>>    you can try  Surplus Wireless Gear folks too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In regards to the Power Supply, that is a straight forward 48v DC power
>>>>> supply (Brick).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>> 
>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:45:19 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Somehow I misplaced my Ceragon POE injector and power supplies during a
>>>>>> cabinet
>>>>>> move.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone happen to have a Ceragon IP-20C compatible POE unit they could 
>>>>>> sell
>>>>>> me?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think the power supplies probably aren't that hard to find, but the POE
> >>>>> apparently is.

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