If you are talking about the Trango power supply in the black box with the
barrier strip on the outside, avoid like the plague.  There's a cheap little
power supply inside, and it seems they all eventually fail, although it may
take years.  Maybe they've improved it, I haven't bought any for several
years, all the ones I've got have been replaced with MeanWells.


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE

With that said you will likely need a -48v power supply to directly power
the radio when mounted to a tower. A +48 will work fine when powering it in
the office. But as soon as it's grounded, that will short the power supply
out. That is based on my experience. Trango also sells a -48 power supply
that is wall mount. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Just to make sure there this is no confusion in the 'lingo'
> 
> 820C/IP20c is designed to run on -48v DC (telecom power plant), and 
> the radio gets powder via the Ethernet cable (POE)
> 
> The external POE Injector device is presented as a DC-DC converter..
> The question was is this necessary when using +48vdc power source or just
a matter of changing polarity...
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:56:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
> 
>> The answer to the question:
>> 
>> The 820C runs perfectly fine on -48VDC run directly to the radio.
>> 
>> You do not need the POE adapter unless you really want to run them using
POE.
>> 
>> I do not explicitly know if they will run on +48VDC - I believe they 
>> will but have not actually tried that.
>> 
>> We have quite a few running on -48VDC from Emerson and Eltek rectifier
shelfs.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:13 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck...
>>> 
>>> This may be an opportunity to clarify something...
>>> 
>>> According to the specs Ceragon IP-20c is a -48vdc radio.
>>> Their POE box/adapter, takes 48v dc or 24v dc and powers the radio.
>>> 
>>> There has not been any clear answer if their Radios will run on 
>>> regular 48vdc directly ...
>>> There have been folks who have 'tested' the cambium 820 version of 
>>> these plugging directly on the Netonix switches.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, these are not 'in-expensive' radios that I would risk 
>>> installing in-correctly.
>>> 
>>> In recommending your injector / surge protector as a solution, my 
>>> question would be.
>>> 
>>> 1) can we do -48v dc power via these devices ? it is just a matter 
>>> of making sure the polarity of the dc cable is correct ? or is there
more to it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 6:08:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>> 
>>>> I am hurt...
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.mccowntech.com/800-gige-poe-outdoor-midspan-poe-injector
>>>> -ethernet-surge-protector/ 
>>>> http://www.mccowntech.com/800-gige-poe-apc-rack-mount-surge-protect
>>>> or-power-inserter/
>>>> 
>>>> Sheesh!
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>> 
>>>> Some suggestions:-
>>>> 
>>>> for the POE injector...
>>>>    you can try a Cambium Reseller.
>>>>    you can possibly by them on Ebay (shipping from Israel)
>>>>    you can try  Surplus Wireless Gear folks too.
>>>> 
>>>> In regards to the Power Supply, that is a straight forward 48v DC 
>>>> power supply (Brick).
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>> 
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:45:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] WTB IP-20C POE
>>>> 
>>>>> Somehow I misplaced my Ceragon POE injector and power supplies 
>>>>> during a cabinet move.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone happen to have a Ceragon IP-20C compatible POE unit they 
>>>>> could sell me?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the power supplies probably aren't that hard to find, but 
>>>>> the POE apparently is.


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