The confusion between LTE and LTU has to be intentional on UBNT's side. If not 
to ride on something else's coattails, why would you use a very similar 
acronym? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:40:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 


I think mixing LTE with what UBNT is doing would be a mistake. Were you under 
the impression they were doing an LTE variant? 


On Dec 8, 2016 10:35 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" < [email protected] > wrote: 





It is common with LTE. UBNT calls it LTU so may be they look what others do at 
the RF layer. 





Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Jon Langeler 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 16:45 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 


It's not common. But you wouldn't need sync. You would need channel spacing and 
such. 

Jon Langeler 

Michwave Technologies, Inc. 




On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:36 AM, castarritt . < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Why would you want to run FDD for PTMP? Wouldn't that prevent using sync for 
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If the announced stuff happens (I am not sure with this as UBNT failed to 
deliver all promises as does several other manufacterers in the present and 
past) it will be different than 450m. 

What is most interesting to me that they claim it to work TDD or FDD. Then it 
will be the first affordable FDD PTMP Platform. This is nothing 450 can do. If 
Ubnt will do massive mimo is questionable. They talked „advanced mimo patterns“ 
but who knows. 

I have learned to see and use what is buyable. Vendor promises are „might 
happen“. Seen this with cambium, mikrotik, ubnt, mimosa, mercurynets, … 






Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2016 13:04 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 


LTU should be a PMP-like platform at a lower cost. It should check lots of 
boxes. It won't be a 450m, though. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < [email protected] > 
To: "af" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:46:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News? 

Elevate, as far as I can tell, is designed to provide a non-forklift migration 
path to ePMP. I don't see either Elevate or ePMP playing to the same market is 
the AirFiber LTU or the 450-derived platforms (including Medusa). 



My best guess from everything I've read and heard is that the AirFiber LTU is 
going to live in the spot between the ePMP/802.11 derived radios and the 450m, 
both in price and performance. 



Put differently: 802.11<ePMP<AirFiber LTU<450i<450m. (Or maybe switch 450i and 
Airfiber LTU, or change < to =) 



-forrest 







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It's called Airfiber LTU the AP will have a SFP port they designed all the 
Chips ground up for WISP's only 
And working sync obviously from the Motorola guys the win cambium is having 
with epmp elevate is going to be very short lived tables about to turn on 
cambium in a big way and I think that's why they are taking a huge risk of 
getting into legal trouble from UBNT but I don't think Robert cares as he 
already knows he won the end game 



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Sorta did in Vegas, but didn't really change the stock with that news. Not that 
coming out with the product would really do that. 




Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


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Are they publically traded? 4th quarter sales bookings but not shipping? 








From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

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Very very few have shipped from Cambium. Expect to hear a lot more this month. 


Daniel White 
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales 
ConVergence Technologies 
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 
[email protected] 

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