6.32.2...
[admin@NOC] /ip ipsec> export
/ip ipsec proposal
set [ find default=yes ] enc-algorithms=3des,aes-256-cbc

I forget what blog or whatever I found this on, but that's what Windows wants to see.

On 12/12/2016 1:05 PM, George Skorup wrote:
And that's where one problem is. The Android native L2TP/IPsec client doesn't complain too much, but the Windows 10 native client wants some specific combination. I forget what it is, but I fought with it for a couple days.

On 12/12/2016 12:54 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
ah...so you're saying it's not IPSec issue per se?
Do you know which encryption types are hardware accelerated?
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If you change the cipher to one that's not hardware encrypted, that problem goes away, replaced with a new problem of CPU capacity.



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MT made L2TP+IPsec w/ pre-shared key painless to configure around v6.30 or 6.32, somewhere in there. In winbox, PPP > LT2P Server, check Use IPsec and fill in the IPsec Secret field. That's your pre-shared key. No more manual IPsec config, all of that is handled dynamically now. So it's just as easy to set up as PPTP.

I'm still running this on our NOC CCR for remote access, and yes, the out of order packet issue is a problem especially with HTTPS, but I'm not going back to PPTP.

If MT was smart, they would let us bypass the h/w accelerated encryption and let it gobble up one of the 36 unused CPU cores. I don't really care. At least that's an interim solution.

On 12/12/2016 10:42 AM, Jon Bruce wrote:

    +1

    It's right up there with WEP or locking your screen door.

    Is OpenVPN an option on Mikrotik?  I've run it for years on
    pfSense and stand-alone and love it.  Failing that, IPSec with a
    decent client like Greenbow has also worked easily and well.

    All of that being said, is easy what is best with security?

    On 12/12/2016 11:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        Not well.



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        I have IPSEC running on CCRS moving hundreds of megs?

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        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam
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        And yes Ken, I can attest that IPSec works for crap when the
        endpoint is a CCR.

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        From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

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        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

            You mean no encryption, it would be secured with
            username/password, right?  Depends on what kind of
            security he is looking for.  It would be easy enough to
            set up an IPSEC VPN, the question is CPU load if the
            encryption has to be done in software.  Also, weren’t
            there some posts about problems with hardware based
            encryption on some Mikrotik platforms, maybe CCR?

            It sounds like you  are looking for a client based VPN,
            not a site-site VPN?  So you need something that will
            work with a client that comes with Windows?  That sounds
            like either PPTP or IPSEC.

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            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
            *Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2016 11:49 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Easiest VPN on mikrotik

            No security though.

            On Dec 9, 2016 11:47 AM, "Tushar Patel" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                PPTP on mikrotik. It will be same, IP address and
                username and password.

                Tushar


                On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I have a non WISP customer with some cameras
                    they monitor, not NVR/DVR to speak of yet. The
                    cameras are port forwarded (called pinholes in
                    their current router) individually, so theyre
                    pretty much exposed IoT targets.

                    Im putting a mikrotik in because the Fortigate
                    solution is cost prohibitive. Fortigates ssl vpn
                    is slick, easy and end user friendly (for the
                    client)

                    Whats the easiest VPN/client on a mikrotik. It
                    would be great if it was as simple as the
                    fortigate, they have a workstation client and
                    most phone apps, All I need to do is give them
                    an IP/FQDN and their username and password, its
                    done.

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