Require a port number to proceed? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "af" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:58:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik - Carrier Grade NAT methods 



The problem I see with that though, is the subpoenas we've gotten are generally 
just an IP address, and a time period... if this is coming from something like, 
say, a facebook post, is there typically going to be any log of that sort of 
thing? 


Assigning port blocks would work fine for things like bittorrent DMCA takedown 
notices, where they give you port information, but I'm not sure how you would 
use it to track down a specific customer when all they give you is the IP 
address... 



On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: 


If you assign a port block per customer (PBA NAT in Juniper), you 
don't really need to log anything... do you? 



On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > wrote: 
> A recent thread about a subpoena made me wonder. Historically this hasn't 
> been an issue for me because I've had access to enough public IP's...but it 
> might become an issue soon. 
> 
> Has anybody set up CGN with appropriate logging on Mikrotik? 
> I'm thinking you would have to log every set of src-ip, dst-ip, src-port, 
> and dst-port for each connection that a customer opens. Does simply 
> checking the "log" checkbox on the srcnat rule generate enough data or is 
> there more to it? 
> 
> Has anybody tried the method on the wiki 
> ( 
> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Firewall/NAT#Carrier-Grade_NAT_.28CGNAT.29_or_NAT444
>  ) 
> where you assign a range of port numbers to each private IP? The idea is 
> you don't have to log everything at that point because you know that a 
> connection from port x corresponds to private ip y. Then you just need to 
> keep track of who has which private IP. It seems like this would have a 
> side effect of limiting the number of simultaneous connections a single 
> customer could open....maybe not a bad thing. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Adam 




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