I guess that partially depends on your definition of working. Single payer
works well for most people for the most common issues and trends to fail
pretty badly for the exceptional.
I was part of a single provider system in the Marine Corps. I think one
should take part in that system, them tell me what you think. If you had a
bone dribbling out our were shot they were great.  Anything else and they
were useless. I have described the issues we had trying to get my asthmatic
son treatment. We eventually had to take him to a private practice provider
and pay for it ourselves. If the government runs all the healthcare where
do you go when that doesn't work?

On Jan 14, 2017 5:10 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don’t understand why residents of the USA are so against a federal
> health system… seems to be working in most of the  advanced nations…
>
> From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, January 13, 2017 at 6:10 PM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
>
> $2100 a month for health insurance???
>
> My wife and I pay $150 Canadian a month for both of us for the BC
> provincial health insurance...  Part of the federally funded system.
>
> I cannot even fathom the idea of paying $500, $1000 or more for health
> insurance for a family of 2 people, or 2 people + children, etc.
>
> It's true that income taxes and other taxes are higher in Canada, but if
> you consider that $2100 as a "tax" on your life and add it up to your
> federal payroll deducations for US income tax, you may actually be paying a
> lot more in a year than I do. No matter what income bracket you're in.
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing this information is like a lot of you out there.
>>
>> Except maybe my earnings because I am making about double median gross
>> salary for my city.
>>
>> I'm not saying I work double, but I do fulfill many roles as the only
>> salary employee of my startup ISP.
>> I don't think I can replace myself for the same cost to the company, so I
>> feel ok with that.
>>
>> I don't live extravagantly, but I do live comfortably.
>>
>> I have a 3100 sqr foot rambler I've lived in since 2001 with a house
>> payment of around $1500 a month.
>>
>> But my biggest expense is health/insurance and medical.
>>
>> I now pay about $2100 a month for my family health insurance through IHC.
>> I just signed up for a good Dental Gold plan at $100 a month for my
>> family, but since it's not company I have to wait 6-12 months for a lot of
>> the benefits :(
>> The insurance deductibles are I think around $6000 a year and I have
>> medications that eat up most of that.
>>
>> I just upped my life and disability insurance on myself and my wife to
>> make sure things don't go bad if I die, that's around $550 a month.
>>
>> I think I spend about $1000 a month on eating, groceries and movies/date
>> nights, at least that's what I came up to in December so that might be a
>> bit off.
>>
>> I've got real estate I'm still trying to sell, but it's not the panica
>> everyone says it is, lol!
>>
>> I just feel like finances don't go as far as they used to a few years ago.
>>
>> I'm not sparking a political debate, just wanted to see if everyone see
>> things in a similar light?
>>
>> Or am I just doing the wrong things?
>>
>>
>>
>

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