Congrats on getting your head above water. Most people I know may bit have
dug a hole but still started with nothing. When I was in the Corps and my
daughter was born we had to eat tofu for 3 months because we couldn't
afford to feed her and meat for us.

You can really get ahead once you start making more by socking the extra
away. I paid off my house in 3 years by not spending my extra income my
wisp was starting to spin off. I still live in that same house for now.

I am very grateful as God and the WISP business has paid for 2 college
educations and more than a few houses. What a great country where an idiot
like me can be so fortunate.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, 5:52 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote:

That's my plan when I get a bit older.  That or a Glock.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, 4:13 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

You can always put all your assets in a trust controlled by  your kids, pay
yourself minimum wage, have the company buy your meals, cars, fuel.  And
then fly with no insurance.  Medicare will take care of you.

*From:* Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 3:10 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
$2100 a month for health insurance???

My wife and I pay $150 Canadian a month for both of us for the BC
provincial health insurance...  Part of the federally funded system.

I cannot even fathom the idea of paying $500, $1000 or more for health
insurance for a family of 2 people, or 2 people + children, etc.

It's true that income taxes and other taxes are higher in Canada, but if
you consider that $2100 as a "tax" on your life and add it up to your
federal payroll deducations for US income tax, you may actually be paying a
lot more in a year than I do. No matter what income bracket you're in.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
wrote:

I'm guessing this information is like a lot of you out there.

Except maybe my earnings because I am making about double median gross
salary for my city.

I'm not saying I work double, but I do fulfill many roles as the only
salary employee of my startup ISP.
I don't think I can replace myself for the same cost to the company, so I
feel ok with that.

I don't live extravagantly, but I do live comfortably.

I have a 3100 sqr foot rambler I've lived in since 2001 with a house
payment of around $1500 a month.

But my biggest expense is health/insurance and medical.

I now pay about $2100 a month for my family health insurance through IHC.
I just signed up for a good Dental Gold plan at $100 a month for my family,
but since it's not company I have to wait 6-12 months for a lot of the
benefits :(
The insurance deductibles are I think around $6000 a year and I have
medications that eat up most of that.

I just upped my life and disability insurance on myself and my wife to make
sure things don't go bad if I die, that's around $550 a month.

I think I spend about $1000 a month on eating, groceries and movies/date
nights, at least that's what I came up to in December so that might be a
bit off.

I've got real estate I'm still trying to sell, but it's not the panica
everyone says it is, lol!

I just feel like finances don't go as far as they used to a few years ago.

I'm not sparking a political debate, just wanted to see if everyone see
things in a similar light?

Or am I just doing the wrong things?

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