Prior to 1996 it was 100% paid by local customer revenue and NECA long distance
pooling.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
And it depends on how much of the loop is allocated to interstate vs intrastate
etc.
Some states have intrastate pooling some don’t. Revenue requirements are made
out of sausage. Lots of bits from here and there.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
NECA long distance pooling settlements.
Lots of components to filling out the revenue requirement.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
and the rest of it?
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:15:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Certainly that is a component of the debt service.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
How is the loan paid back? That customer's $50/month plan?
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:47:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
No, that is a loan. Just like everyone else here that needs to borrow to
build.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
You got money from someone that wasn't the customer? That's a subsidy.
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:15:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Got zero subsidy. Just earning the same rate of return all the other LECs
earn.
It is a cost recovery mechanism, not a subsidy.
It replaced the super high long distance charges of times past.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Any of them getting 1/10th of the subsidy you got.
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
What wisp? Show me the wisp that would do this.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
If you plowed 20 miles of fiber for one house, you can bet your ass a WISP
would do the same.
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:38:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Depends on what you call rural. I have served areas with perhaps 1 house every
5 miles. You are not going to find a wisp willing to build out in areas like
that. I plowed 20 miles of fiber for one single house.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
If WISPA does their job well, small business can more effectively service the
rural markets than the telcos, for alot less money
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
You think? It seems like the Republicans are in the pocket of big telco, so I
wouldn't hold my breath.
On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, That One Guy /sarcasm
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
i think that bank account may be closed very soon
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
Lipstick on a pig. The copper in still rotting in the ground and the
only approved Centurylink fix appears to be the upgrade from black to orange
trash bags. Except when those are out of stock.
Centurylink will be back to the FCC shortly crying about how the need
more support money to fix the plant. The only question is if they do it this
year or next.
Mark Radabaugh
WISPA FCC Committee Chair
fcc_ch...@wispa.org
419-261-5996
On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
They couldn't before either, but they didn't give a shit.
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From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
These should all be fiber fed. Any new DSLAM's with CAF funding are
very likely fiber fed. They just can't support the bandwidth requirements with
only bonded T1's anymore.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:
One would suspect a calix e7-2 or e7-20 (2Tbps backplane, 100Gbps
link to each line card). I don't think you can even feed those by anything
short of at least a gig ethernet circuit. I never really tried on any of the
E7-2s I've used in the past though :)
On Jan 31, 2017 11:29 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity, do you know how are they feeding these shelves?
I know that in at least one case a couple of years ago, Qwest was
feeding an entire neighborhood on I think 4 T1's.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
Exactly. Calix VDSL2 Remote DSLAM. These are the result of CAF
funding from Govt. to provide minimum 10/1 Mbps speeds to the census blocks
they took funding for.
If Centurylink had crappy or no DSL in these areas before, expect
them to be able to offer somewhat functional to excellent DSL speeds to
customers in range of these remote DSLAMs. For really close customers, they may
see up to 40/1 Mbps speeds.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
As someone already said, its clearly and E3.
https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Skorup
<george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:
Regen would be my guess.
On 1/31/2017 2:45 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
it got fiber ran into it for remote dslam to provide
customers vdsl2 along that route.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 01/31/17 03:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these
Calix. I'd guess G.Fast
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Josh Corson
<j...@bluebitnetworks.com> wrote:
Does anyone know what these are? They are popping up on
fairly rural
areas of our coverage areas and on the state highways.
Thanks
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