Like the $238 "tax" on my fiber lease that runs between state lines? per month?
----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck McCown To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these And it depends on how much of the loop is allocated to interstate vs intrastate etc. Some states have intrastate pooling some don’t. Revenue requirements are made out of sausage. Lots of bits from here and there. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these NECA long distance pooling settlements. Lots of components to filling out the revenue requirement. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these and the rest of it? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:15:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these Certainly that is a component of the debt service. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these How is the loan paid back? That customer's $50/month plan? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:47:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these No, that is a loan. Just like everyone else here that needs to borrow to build. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these You got money from someone that wasn't the customer? That's a subsidy. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:15:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these Got zero subsidy. Just earning the same rate of return all the other LECs earn. It is a cost recovery mechanism, not a subsidy. It replaced the super high long distance charges of times past. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these Any of them getting 1/10th of the subsidy you got. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:11:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these What wisp? Show me the wisp that would do this. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these If you plowed 20 miles of fiber for one house, you can bet your ass a WISP would do the same. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:38:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these Depends on what you call rural. I have served areas with perhaps 1 house every 5 miles. You are not going to find a wisp willing to build out in areas like that. I plowed 20 miles of fiber for one single house. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these If WISPA does their job well, small business can more effectively service the rural markets than the telcos, for alot less money On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> wrote: You think? It seems like the Republicans are in the pocket of big telco, so I wouldn't hold my breath. On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> wrote: i think that bank account may be closed very soon On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: Lipstick on a pig. The copper in still rotting in the ground and the only approved Centurylink fix appears to be the upgrade from black to orange trash bags. Except when those are out of stock. Centurylink will be back to the FCC shortly crying about how the need more support money to fix the plant. The only question is if they do it this year or next. Mark Radabaugh WISPA FCC Committee Chair [email protected] 419-261-5996 On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: They couldn't before either, but they didn't give a shit. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:49:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these These should all be fiber fed. Any new DSLAM's with CAF funding are very likely fiber fed. They just can't support the bandwidth requirements with only bonded T1's anymore. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: One would suspect a calix e7-2 or e7-20 (2Tbps backplane, 100Gbps link to each line card). I don't think you can even feed those by anything short of at least a gig ethernet circuit. I never really tried on any of the E7-2s I've used in the past though :) On Jan 31, 2017 11:29 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected]> wrote: Out of curiosity, do you know how are they feeding these shelves? I know that in at least one case a couple of years ago, Qwest was feeding an entire neighborhood on I think 4 T1's. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote: Exactly. Calix VDSL2 Remote DSLAM. These are the result of CAF funding from Govt. to provide minimum 10/1 Mbps speeds to the census blocks they took funding for. If Centurylink had crappy or no DSL in these areas before, expect them to be able to offer somewhat functional to excellent DSL speeds to customers in range of these remote DSLAMs. For really close customers, they may see up to 40/1 Mbps speeds. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote: As someone already said, its clearly and E3. https://www.calix.com/systems/e-series/e3-e5-dsl.html On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: Regen would be my guess. On 1/31/2017 2:45 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: it got fiber ran into it for remote dslam to provide customers vdsl2 along that route. Tim -----Original Message----- From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 01/31/17 03:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these Calix. I'd guess G.Fast Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Josh Corson <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone know what these are? They are popping up on fairly rural areas of our coverage areas and on the state highways. 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