and you also need to provide the english conviction rates withing that data set
In regard to the rioting, as I understand it, thats over a guy getting baton raped in custody by the police, to be fair, thats not an immigration issue On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > Further clarification: > > One study of rape in Swedish cases covering the years from 2002 to 2007, > done in 2009, showed that Sweden had a rate of reported rapes (counted in > international rape figures) double that of England. 53% of which where the > cases were thrown out before court started due to insufficient evidence... > And then there's that 13% conviction rate. > > 6700 rapes X 13% conviction rate = 871 rapes with sufficient evidence to > convict. > > > On Feb 20, 2017 10:29 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > >> In 2005 they changed the way they report rape. >> >> First, they count each REPORT, before an investigation has been done. >> >> Secondly, they count each act against an individual as separate counts of >> rape instead of one. >> >> Let's say a female at a rave reported being raped by 15 individuals one >> night. That would be counted as 15 individual reports of rape. >> >> Or, if a gay man says he was raped over 200 times over the course of a >> year, that would be counted as 200 unique counts of rape. >> >> There is also the year to account for, as a rape committed say in 2007 >> but reported in say 2014 would be added to 2014 totals under Swedish law. >> >> In 1992 in Sweden the legal definition of rape was widened to often >> include what many countries would consider sexual assaults, which led to a >> 25% increase in "rape" being reported. >> >> It's also important to look at the number of people in Sweden at the >> times give the reports. From 2005 there were around 9.02 million in Sweden. >> In 2015 there were 9.78, or an increase of 760,000 people. >> >> Also look at conviction rates. In 2007 for instance, less than 13% of >> those in Sweden accused of rape ended up being convicted. >> >> >> You can't look at this from just one side. People need to be objective >> and do actual research from multiple sources, in the most unbiased way >> possible. >> >> >> On Feb 20, 2017 9:58 PM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote: >> >> Or you could do the research yourself. Based on stats from the Swedish >> government, in 2006, presumably before there were refugees, there were 4208 >> rapes. In 2014 there were 6700 rapes. That right there is a 62.8% increase >> and doesn't take into account the last two years. Another stat shows that >> 77% of those were committed by men who were foreign born. They also >> currently have like the 6th highest rate of rape per capita in the world >> and highest by far of any western country. There is always this article >> which appears to be in favor of the immigration. >> >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/13/sex- >> assaults-sweden-stockholm-music-festival >> >> And tonight, there are riots in Stockholm. >> >> http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=64311 >> >> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-b >> reaks-out-sweden >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:10 PM, SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net> wrote: >> >>> Stop listening to alt-facts, fake news. >>> >>> >>> >>> Politifact says that is not true. >>> >>> >>> >>> If we look specifically at sex offences, which the Fox News segment >>> highlighted, there were 18,100 sex offenses reported to the police in 2015, >>> down 11 percent from 2014, according to the Swedish National Council >>> for Crime Prevention >>> <https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html> >>> . >>> >>> The number of rapes reported decreased 12 percent between 2014 and 2015, >>> to 5,920, the agency reported. The council noted that in Sweden, when a >>> single case is reported, every incident associated with the case is also >>> reported as an offense during the same year. >>> >>> The amount of reported rape offenses has gone up in the last 10 years >>> (2006-15), which the agency said can be partially attributed to new >>> legislation in 2005 that augmented the types of acts that can be classified >>> as rape. >>> >>> "The effect of the statutory change appeared in the statistics such that >>> the number of reported offences in respect of sexual coercion and >>> exploitation declined in the years immediately following the statutory >>> change while the number of reported rapes increased," according to the >>> agency. In 2013, a rape offense was broadened "to include cases where the >>> victim reacts passively." >>> >>> And on crime >>> >>> >>> >>> "In general, crime statistics have gone down the last (few) years, and >>> no there is no evidence to suggest that new waves of immigration has lead >>> to increased crime," >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 2:38 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>> >>> >>> >>> I think any rational person who has followed the news about the refugee >>> situation in Europe would have figured out exactly what he meant. A 70% >>> increase in rapes in the last couple years in Sweden is a pretty good >>> indication that there is a problem there. If any city, let alone our whole >>> country, had seen this much of an increase, you know you'd be hearing about >>> it. Swedish authorities took a lot of heat for covering up the number of >>> assaults recently at the Stockholm Music Festival, but I don't think to >>> many news outlets over here even reported it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> 2 & 2 is 22, give the guy some credit >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 20, >>> 2017 2:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>> >>> No. He heard "something" on Fox about "something" in Sweden. He put 2 >>> and 2 together and got 11. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 2/20/2017 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>> I am guessing something happened in some other country and he got >>> confused. >>> Or, better yet, he was spilling the beans on some kind of intelligence >>> without thinking. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince >>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:41 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics >>> >>> Is that what happened in Sweden? Sweden! Sweden? Sweden! >>> >>> Really? Sweden?!? >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 2/20/2017 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> From the news: >>> >>> Russia's ambassador to the United Nations . . . died suddenly after >>> falling ill Monday in his office at the mission. >>> >>> We all know what that means... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
