There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your Last 
Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except one was 
black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the reverse.  The 
difference was all important to the aliens, but the Enterprise crew could 
hardly tell them apart.

 

I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or right, 
Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were painted a 
certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their political 
party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that way, if they 
are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have a graphic that 
tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event, you need to know 
what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo accordingly.

 

Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to believe 
people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The parties don’t seem 
capable of running capable candidates for office and governing well in order to 
earn votes.  But when they eek out an election victory, they proclaim it a 
landslide and believe they have a mandate.  Rather than accept that voters 
hated the other guys a little more.  This time.

 

It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom really 
care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we still want 
it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently truthful 
and trustyworthy...

 

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats" party.  Skim 
the wikipedia article about who they are.

 

Some choice quotes:

"The party had its roots in Swedish fascism 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-r1089-15> [15] and 
was a part of the  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy> white 
supremacy movement; 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-telegraphboots-16> 
[16]"

"The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because the 
other parties are staunchly maintaining a  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire#In_politics> policy of refusing 
cooperation with them. 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-25> [25]"

"The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish  
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden> immigration and 
integration policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they 
believe that integration involves "meeting in the middle" and do not think that 
the  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes> indigenous Swedish people should 
have to bear the burden "

 

The section on ideologies is interesting too.  They might as well have "Make 
Sweden Great Again" hats.

 

 

------ Original Message ------

From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

Sent: 2/23/2017 4:15:29 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

My only point is, Trump made one of his typical off-the-cuff/out his ass 
utterances, he was excoriated by the left press.

Now it seems there was something of substance behind his comment.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:12 PM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

Sweden has accepted something like 25 times as many refugees per capita than 
the U.S.  And they have been mostly men who can’t find work.  Whereas the U.S. 
accepts mostly women and children, who have been heavily screened, and there 
are usually communities willing to help them integrate.  I’m not sure why we 
are wanting to point fingers at Sweden and make some political issue of this.

 

Why not instead look for a model of how to do this right?  By all accounts, 
Canada is very good at this, with families virtually adopting refugees and 
helping them resettle and integrate into Canadian society.

 

Just be happy we get some choice unlike Europe which doesn’t have the Atlantic 
ocean between them and disasters like Syria.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:48 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

One for Jaime:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html

 

From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans.... yes  I have 
known trans people....

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like that at 
all.  There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing that comes to 
your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls, then probably you 
don’t have any friends or relatives that are transgender.  Well, that is 
unlikely, more likely you just don’t know they are trans.

 

And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.  Anywhere else, are there 
really going to be bathroom police checking birth certificates?  There’s a 
creepy thought.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT trolling

 

Bored.

If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could 
shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell 
would have identified as a girl....

 

I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.  Boys will be boys.  
What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?

 

They don’t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my granddaughter 
to not have the boy’s football team in there after volleyball practice.  

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