That’s okay Jaime, Faisal and I have these discussions all the time.  Although 
I don’t agree with him most of the time, I still respect him and his knowledge 
of his side of the discussion.  I just got a book on the Muslim history and 
situation on the Middle East that he recommended to better educate myself so I 
have more information to keep proving him wrong (he’s gonna love that).  Honest 
and intellectual disagreements make better people of both sides if you are 
willing to keep the discussion to facts.  I stated a fact that made it 
difficult to do an honest evaluation of what really happened in Benghazi and 
you have yet to provide a counterpoint to that.  So if you want to get back on 
the facts of the discussion, let’s continue this on a more civil level.

I appreciate the passion on both sides since we are close to both the military 
and the police side of many of these issues.  However, we all have something in 
common or we wouldn’t be on this forum.  We all respect the successes and 
experiences that we all have gathered and freely share that.  So there is no 
reason to cover other areas and then stray from that level of respect or 
friendship.

Rory


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:06 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

Rory I respect you as a wireless expert and business man...I don't and will 
never take your position on Trump,Benghazi and right wing thinking....This 
speech is filled with sound bites.  ...He is using sales techniques by bringing 
in folks to prove his points....Salesmanship....But as supporter of veterans 
with grandfather ,father,brother and son serving I still find what he did by 
throwing blame elsewhere unforgivable...My Catholic upbringing asks me to 
forgive him...I can't...Even with Lent starting later tonight...I just can't....

On Feb 28, 2017 7:40 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What does “proven to be what it was mean”.  Kind of hard to know exactly “what 
it was” when they Obama administration hid everyone who was stationed there in 
“overseas” assignments so they couldn’t be called to testify and stonewalled 
the entire investigation for even longer.  Not exactly a roaring example of not 
hiding the facts.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:38 PM
To: Animal Farm

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

Benghazi was proven to be what it was ... Period.. you will never change the 
facts...No matter how you try....I don't believe Trump wrote much of what he is 
saying....Great ideas to be sure on paper...He is selling....I believe in 
America...Not him


On Feb 28, 2017 7:29 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I should have said Democrats who are the current supporters of Obama.  I can 
start with the Clintons in the 90’s with Loral and Johnny Chung.  Their trail 
of being traitors to the U.S. is long and well documented.

In more recent times, Benghazi, side deals with Iran, multiple side deals with 
Russia, Podesta, Hillary, etc…  Move on to the email server and then from 
there, keep following the money with Hillary and Bill.  The recent leaks of 
some of Trumps conversations definitely fall under the category of treason.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

That's a heck of an accusation.
Do you have an example of Obama supporters committing treason?

------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 2/28/2017 7:39:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

Trump had nothing to do with this mission but considering that Obama supporters 
are not above treason to make their political goals, that’s where I’d be 
starting.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

Might be simpler than that. Could just be a few idiots in the new admin that 
don't know how to keep their traps shut. His Orangeness doesn't seem to connect 
the dots very well himself. He thought the conversations that Flynn was having 
with the Russians were a good thing.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:25 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Who benefits from the leak?

  1.  ISIS
  2.  Enemies of Trump/GOP/USA
ISIS probably did not leak to themselves.

So what does that leave us with?

Apply Occam's razor.

From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:47 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

Exactly, thats why the dad didnt need to request an investigation, it is being 
investigated

He should have not addressed that during the softball interview and waited til 
tonights address with a prepared speech

but this is going to have a shit ton of fallout

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The person to blame is the one that leaked details of the action to the bad 
guys.
They walked into a setup.  This was long planned under Obama.

How do you not know that Obama did not leak it to make Trump look bad?  Or 
Hillary?

Somebody in the know leaked it.

He blamed our military.  He is the Commander.  Therefore he is blaming himself 
irrespective of his words.
The guy certainly has no grace or class when it comes to things like this.  He 
needs a bit of “the buck stops here” but he is just the opposite.

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:29 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT. New low ...Trump appears to blame generals for SEAL's 
death in Yemen raid

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