ONT Housing $ 30.00
ONT $ 215.00
Unicam $ 15.00
Cyber Power $ 85.00
Cyber Power Install $ 110.00
House Sub Total $ 455.00
OLT $11K/8/32 $ 42.97
OIM $845/32 $ 26.41
Splitter $900/32 $ 31.00
DLC Subtotal $ 100.38
Electronics/Sub Total Expense/house $ 555.38
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
If you are using Calix, then your port cost will be very high. We went Alphion.
Our OLT and port costs were very low. This help us have less oversub on ports.
The plan was to design for a 32x1 but deploy a 16x1, with the intent to to make
it a 16x2 and overlay NG-PON2 in the future.
On Mar 6, 2017 12:04 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
We have always done 32:1. I think Cascade Networks may have tried the 64:1
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The
company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause
some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on
the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again,
lots of power is required.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change. All the
splitters etc still work. That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps
symmetrical all at the same time. So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G
symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
From: Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year
giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / [email protected] / http://www.race.com
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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and
watching Netflix.
The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network
owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize
how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100
customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see
what happens.
Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more
speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.
On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Alphion does, yes.
On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
What kind of costs are you talking?
Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports?
Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March
04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG]
Small-scale GPON
We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this
time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
deployments?