ONT Housing  $           30.00  
      ONT  $         215.00  
      Unicam  $           15.00  
      Cyber Power  $           85.00  
      Cyber Power Install  $         110.00  
      House Sub Total  $         455.00  
          
      OLT $11K/8/32  $           42.97  
      OIM $845/32  $           26.41  
      Splitter $900/32  $           31.00  
      DLC Subtotal  $         100.38  
          
      Electronics/Sub Total Expense/house  $         555.38  


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:11 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

If you are using Calix, then your port cost will be very high. We went Alphion. 
Our OLT and port costs were very low. This help us have less oversub on ports. 
The plan was to design for a 32x1 but deploy a 16x1, with the intent to to make 
it a 16x2 and overlay NG-PON2 in the future.


On Mar 6, 2017 12:04 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

  We have always done 32:1.  I think Cascade Networks may have tried the 64:1

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 11:01 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

  Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1. The 
company I just got off the ground did 16x1.

  On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:

    AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.



    Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.



    I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?



    The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might cause 
some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.



    AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still 
supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much on 
the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards 
compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But again, 
lots of power is required.



    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
    Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON



    Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple 
wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All the 
splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5 Mbps 
symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could sell 1G 
symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.  



    From: Carlos Alcantar 

    Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM

    To: [email protected] 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON



    to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this year 
giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.





    Carlos Alcantar

    Race Communications / Race Team Member 

    1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

    Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / [email protected] / http://www.race.com




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    From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of George Skorup 
<[email protected]>
    Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON 



    I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones and 
watching Netflix.

    The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the 
utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another 
switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The network 
owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just don't realize 
how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports. There's less than 100 
customers so far, so please, for the love of god, lets fix this now! We'll see 
what happens.

    Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of 
rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want more 
speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll build it.

    On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

      Alphion does, yes.



      On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

        What kind of costs are you talking?
        Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?

        Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.  
        -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 
04, 2017 8:39 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] 
Small-scale GPON 

        We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this 
time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the 
AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small 
deployments?





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