I'm importing direct from China.  16Port OLT with Class Optics and Power
Supply for $3200.  ONT's for $25.  PLC's from $2-10 depending on the
split.  Check Alibaba.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
wrote:

> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and throw in
> another OLT if needed.
>
> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment was 64x1.
> The company I just got off the ground did 16x1.
>
> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
>
>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in cabinets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split?
>>
>>
>>
>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which might
>> cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high FDX.
>>
>>
>>
>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I can still
>> supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want to carry that much
>> on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s essentially backwards
>> compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short like mine. But
>> again, lots of power is required.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>>
>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and multiple
>> wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP has to change.  All
>> the splitters etc still work.  That will give everyone on the PON 312.5
>> Mbps symmetrical all at the same time.  So oversubscribing 3:1 you could
>> sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out of headroom.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar
>>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>>
>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being released this
>> year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Carlos Alcantar
>>
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com /
>> http://www.race.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using cell phones
>> and watching Netflix.
>>
>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources for the
>> utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and turn up another
>> switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps every night. The
>> network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. They just
>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k ports.
>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of god,
>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens.
>>
>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a neighborhood of
>> rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it works fine. They "want
>> more speed" and if they're willing to put up some cash for it, then we'll
>> build it.
>>
>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Alphion does, yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> What kind of costs are you talking?
>> Does  it talk to ONTs?  ONTs with POTS ports?
>>
>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low.
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, March 04,
>> 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG]
>> Small-scale GPON
>>
>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE this time
>> around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has anyone deployed the
>> AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else have you used for small
>> deployments?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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