Agreed. A fully patched system used by someone competent is likely more secure than one that isn't, ran by an idiot and has AV.
https://www.onmsft.com/news/google-chrome-engineer-says-windows-defender-the-only-well-behaved-av ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:39:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed The only time I ever got a virus is when some other jerk used my computer, so having AV at all is just so other people don't get uppity with me about not having it. What I like about Defender (and MSSE before it) is that it works quietly in the background and doesn't pester me. If it doesn't work well, at least it's not being noisy about it. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: 3/19/2017 10:08:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed Defender is the best AV system out there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Conaway" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:30:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed The pathetic way Windows Defender works, I doubt it takes a lot of bandwidth. Rory From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:13 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed It's definitely better than it was for awhile, but we've had a couple customers complaining that "their connection never works" in the last couple weeks, and when I checked it was the same old thing with a couple dozen TCP connections to 13.x.x.x IP addresses completely killing the connection. At least one of them said there was an update going, but it could very well be something like Windows Defender. On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Adam Moffett < [email protected] > wrote: I think they changed something. Windows 10 updates used to cripple my home connection, but lately I haven't noticed them. I have recently had an incident where some Windows system process is downloading something from a Microsoft IP address and that download crippled me. Settings -> Updates & Security didn't indicate any update was downloading. I think I eventually determined it to be the Windows Defender that was doing the downloading, but I don't remember how I concluded that. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nate Burke" < [email protected] > To: "Animal Farm" < [email protected] > Sent: 3/16/2017 10:20:30 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Windows 10 update speed So it seems like when a customer wants to update a windows 10 machine, it will gladly and readily take all available bandwidth (and more). I'm updating 2 brand new windows 10 machines in the NOC, plugged into gigabit Ethernet, and they're downloading the windows updates at <2mb/s. I would have expected them to just fly.
