Our pops were centered in several neighborhoods. Each pop was on active fiber back to the adjacent pops, just like how you would lay out a micropop tower for fixed wireless.
On Mar 27, 2017 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > The splitter has to be fed from equipment that does. I have many > subdivisions that may have 400 dwellings each. I have the OLT cards in the > cabinet next to the splitters. If you feed all your splitters from the > NOC, then yes, clearly a saving in power equipment in that respect. > > I can have 2 strands feeding a remote the way I do it. If I did it with > all the cards at the C.O. I would have 165 strands just feeding splitters > alone. > > With remotes, my those two strands can daisy chain from remote to remote > in an erps ring. Then when the fiber gets cut, no emergency. > > If a 165 strand main splitter cable got cut, big emergency. > More splicing cost if you don’t use remotes too. > > pros and cons > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 4:02 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > Switches take cabinets and power. Splitters do not. > > On Mar 27, 2017 4:58 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes and no. Pretty much the same amount of fiber depending on where you >> locate the splitters or switches. >> >> On AE you battery back the switch. >> On GPON you battery back the OLT/OIM. >> >> At the remote cabinet, you either have a cheap switch and SFPs. >> -or- >> You have an expensive OLT/OIM and splitter. >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 3:53 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >> >> AE requires a lot more electronics and optics. And fiber. And battery >> backup. Etc. >> >> On Mar 27, 2017 4:33 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had 16 >>> or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON. >>> But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like >>> Sterling I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix PON. >>> >>> With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of the >>> cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. >>> So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you >>> place the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on new >>> greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a >>> regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations. I have >>> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this. >>> >>> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc. >>> Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>> >>> Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to >>> tackle. >>> >>> It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber >>> count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper enclosures. >>> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I >>> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>> >>> I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other ideas. >>>> Cheap... you get what you pay for. >>>> >>>> FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around >>>> in the years to come. >>>> Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go active >>>> ethernet. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>> >>>> Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to wait >>>> for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. >>>> >>>> Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that >>>> other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but that's >>>> less important to me than having it just work. >>>> >>>> -Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>> >>>> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait >>>>> >>>>> Jon Langeler >>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are >>>>>> coded, yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from >>>>>> another >>>>>> he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually tested across >>>>>> vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or doesn't work at all >>>>>> is going to be a matter of chance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>> >>>>>> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with >>>>>>> GPON. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jared >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>
