I think the idea is you can run a 12 strand aerial cable down a rural
road. Since you're using this skinny cable, you can use a $40 closure
to put a PON coupler in front of the customer prem.
My quick estimate is the difference might be around $6,000 per
mile.....that changes with assumptions on how many houses are on that
mile and so on....maybe $4k to $6k is fairer.
I don't have pricing from Calix. I'm looking at Alphion...the ONT is
pretty close to a routerboard. The OLT is a lot more than a mikrotik
switch, but cost per customer port (assuming 1:16 PON) is on par with a
mid grade switch. It's more than mikrotik, less than Juniper. I can't
share numbers due to NDA, but that's the idea.
We're looking at doing a whole rural town with 50 miles of road and 300
households. I haven't gotten down to brass tacks yet, but on the
surface it seems like the savings is enough to buy a really nice bucket
truck.
-Adam
------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you had
16 or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the PON.
But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like
Sterling I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix
PON.
With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of the
cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself.
So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you
place the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style on
new greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we
are a regulated common carrier with provider of last resort
obligations. I have to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally
required to do this.
Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage etc.
Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS.
-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to
tackle.
It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower fiber
count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper
enclosures.
Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I
was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other
ideas.
Cheap... you get what you pay for.
FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be around
in the years to come.
Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go active
ethernet.
-----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay to
wait
for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting.
Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table that
other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but
that's
less important to me than having it just work.
-Adam
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jon Langeler" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
wrote:
I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics are
coded, yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT from
another he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually
tested across vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or
doesn't work at all is going to be a matter of chance.
------ Original Message ------
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON
No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility with
GPON.
Jared
