BiDi is slightly more. A 10G BiDi is $48. Not sure on the temperature range. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:12:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 

I usually get industrial rated bidi optics, they're sightly more. 

On Thursday, March 30, 2017, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




$7/each for GigE LX (even does dual mode 100m\1000m) 
$34/each for 10G LR 

Plus shipping 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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From: "Sterling Jacobson" < sterl...@avative.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:06:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 



I don’t think so on Active Ethernet. 

It’s about $21 for a pair of SFP optics generic direct from China. 

$25 to be safe including shipping x 36 is $900. 

Am I wrong? 



From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:02 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 


GigE optics would put him at $252 + S&H 



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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:45:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 

36 users? Jesus. 



That would be hard to beat..Even though that puts you at $900 plus s/h just in 
optics, plus the switch cost. 



I could do some napkin math when I'm no longer at a stop light to figure out 
how many users per location the tipping point is for a low cost OLT vs 
something with 48 SFP ports. A quick guess says around 100. 



On Mar 30, 2017 3:19 PM, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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I'm on a similar quest for low cost deployment methods. If you find your super 
contractor team, you can give me a quote. 



I was planning a switch cabinet with rackmount 2U enclosures with splice trays 
inside and a patch panel on the front.....now I'm looking at a plain Hoffman 
box, fanout the cables and terminate with SOC's so the cables go straight into 
a switch. Waaay fewer parts, waaay cheaper box. You can also put splice trays 
on the back plane and splice pigtails onto your fanouts rather than use SOC's. 
That's probably cheaper still, but then the box is bigger. With the SOC's I can 
keep the box down to 20" wide, and I can mount it right to the bottom of one of 
our poles. I could also (as someone said) put a splice enclosure above this box 
and splice a bundle of long pigtails onto the OSP cable. I suspect that would 
come out slightly more expensive. 



This box for 36 AE users will come in under $1800 and goes right on the pole. 
I've already got electric service where I'm putting it.....if I didn't, then 
I'd figure on another $1000-1500. 



I'm not ready for the PON rabbit hole yet, but I see a lot of room for 
scrimping there. The problem I see is to be efficient with the cost of the OLT 
you need to aggregate hundreds of customers to one spot. There won't be a cheap 
36 user PON box....unless UBNT is really cheap. I don't know what there price 
is like. 







------ Original Message ------ 

From: "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > 

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 3/30/2017 1:50:18 PM 

Subject: [AFMUG] FTTH construction tiger team 



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I am considering building a construction team that can drop into a small town 
or large subdivision, install fiber and move on. 

Something where I own the construction equipment and keep labor costs low. Want 
to identify the minimum equipment necessary and the methods of construction to 
provide the best value. 



HDD with mud truck 

Do we need a vacuum excavator? 

Mini excavator 

One of these drop plows. Whoever said their guy can do 5-8 homes per day.... 
yeah that one (to lazy to search who it was). 



What to use for hand holes? 

Plastic hand holes? 



What are the best values for splice cases? 



Perhaps try UBNT GPON. Can always throw it in the ditch if it does not work. 



So a best practices/FTTH in a box schedule of equipment and methods is needed. 
From that I will look at the ROI needed from the equipment as well as the labor 
costs to estimate the costs to do a subdivision. 



>From that we will look at the ROI on a competitive ARPU to see if an area is 
>worth doing. 

I keep getting asked to do this, so I guess I better do this. 


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