In the 1970s, when women dressed to attract attention, the men did not get 
chastised when they gave attention.  
Girls teased, and the guys loved it.  Tube tops.  Halter tops.  String Bikinis. 
 Skip class to go to the lake.  Skinny dipping.  

Political debates were not held is safe zones.  Young people were robust.  They 
did not get butt hurt about every little thing.  

We built our own explosives and used them for amusement.  

Genders were clearly defined, men, women, fags and lesbians.  We secretly 
thought that lesbians were really overweight unattractive hetro girls that used 
the lesbian tag to take the pressure off.  Men and fags used the men’s room.  
Simple. 

The world was simple.  USSR == Bad

Smoking was good.  Especially menthol.  

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 10:49 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I won a point ... maybe

>>> in our superpluralistic enlightened society, morality is an artifact of the 
>>> dark ages...


I have a distinct impression that above statement has been made by folks at 
every stage of time since the beginning of time


There are forces that create the push pull.. I most certainly cannot and do not 
condone all behavior...... 


While I was not around in the USA during the 70's ... I have to ask  how much 
different is today's behavior vs the the 'hippie' era  of Sex, Drugs and Rock 
and  Roll....


I think when one looks back to that time one might realize that today we are 
having the same reaction that our parents were having during that era ?


Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 12:18:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT  I won a point ... maybe

  Yeahbut, in our superpluralistic enlightened society, morality is an artifact 
of the dark ages...

  From: Faisal Imtiaz

  Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 10:14 AM
  To: [email protected]

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I won a point ... maybe

  I am seeing more and more of these issues that have a 'context' to them, 
taken out of context the sound ridiculous..


  I will give you two very specific examples...


  Lots of the ladies in my family wear the Hijab (Dress code for Muslim Women, 
have to cover all parts of their bodies in non-revealing clothes, and a Head 
Scarf..... not to be confused with the 'Niqab' = face covering).


  They often get stares and sometime dirty looks (and some quiet or loud 
mumbling), many times empathetic looks and questions.. The type of response is 
more related to the environment..... there are cities in the USA where such 
dress code does will not get them 2nd looks from anyone around..


  Now taking this particular lady's comment.. if she desires to go naked... 
well if she does so on Miami Beach, she might not even get 2nd looks.. but if 
she decides to do that in the middle of town that would a whole different 
story...


  What is the proper answer ? I don't know.. but  I do agree with a 'lack' of 
recognition or a challenge of the status quo... that there is a connection 
between certain kind of behavior and the action/reaction it invites which is 
greatly dependent on the environment.


  Personally I think this is all related to Morality, and how each one of us 
understands it or perceives it..and yes it has been on slippery slopes for a 
long time..


  Regards


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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    From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 11:53:33 AM
    Subject: [AFMUG] OT  I won a point ... maybe

    Today there is a minor protest of sorts about women getting unwanted 
attention.  One of the young ladies in the crowd started a dialog with me.  I 
trolled and baited her a bit.  It devolved a bit to the point where she said 
even if she chose to wear no clothes at all, she has the right to be unmolsted 
and not receive any attention from anyone.  “People are not animals, they can 
choose to control their behaviors” she said.  She happens to be a computer 
science undergrad at the University of Utah.

    I told her I disagree.  I told her that we are a meat robot.  Our operating 
system, which I call “natural man” just wants to eat, sleep, screw and 
sometimes attack those that get too close to his mating partners.

    The human element is the app.  I run Chuck 1.0
    Apps are a form of AI that can reprogram itself.  But some apps let the OS 
take over too much of the time.

    And a naked women or one dressed and looking in a particular way always 
triggers a non-maskable interruupt by the OS and that always attempts to run 
the “screw the girl” routine in BIOS.

    She looked puzzled for a moment, cocked her head at an angle, narrowed her 
brow and told me that I might be on to something.  Then walked away.

    I think that was a win?

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