It depends what job you need them to do... a B11 is capable of doing close
to a full gig, doing that with any other 11ghz radio is going to cost way,
way more. The AF11 is cheap enough that we can use them places where we
couldn't normally justify a licensed link.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Everyone's financial position is different but I wouldn't consider either
> the AF11 or B11. For my money neither of them does enough. Put something
> big up there you won't have to think about for a couple years.
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 6:48 AM [email protected] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I prefer the AF11 to the B11 and am thinking of replacing the B11 with
>> the AF11 as well.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The web site will send your information over to Liz, though, IIRC.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>
>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:50:31 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] mimosa
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> The website does not handle FCC stuff... you still have to go through a
>>> coordinator, same as any other 11ghz link.
>>>
>>> They work, and they get a ton of throughput for cheap, but don't expect
>>> them to work like a SAF. Between the two, I think I actually prefer the
>>> AF11... they can't quite match the speed of the B11, but they behave more
>>> like a normal licensed radio than the B11... they just lack an SFP port and
>>> 80mhz channels.
>>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> we are looking to drop some dough on these guys if the sales pitch is true
>>>>
>>>> does the website handle the FCC stuff? I personally find that hard to
>>>> believe, considering the FCC itself has a fee, unless the reseller
>>>> (unnamed) is building it into the price. Still less than SAF
>>>> Im not looking to move away from SAF, my only complaint with SAF is
>>>> that it works too well, so much that I altered routing the other day before
>>>> I realized the winds a while back turned the 800 plus pound ballast NPM and
>>>> the signal drop wasnt weather fade and that up until essentially nothing
>>>> the beast runs at full modulation
>>>>
>>>> Literally, the only reason for looking at mimosa is the low cost, and
>>>> comparing the low cost of mimosa to SAF, its alot, considering SAF is
>>>> relatively cheap.
>>>>
>>>> from what Ive seen, mimosa is like running mikrotik routers, you pay a
>>>> shit ton less in exchange for a little more poking, not constant diddling,
>>>> just occasional poking.
>>>>
>>>> I have no interest in looking at ubnt noisy crickets on our licensed
>>>> gear, but mimosa seems promising
>>>>
>>>> I need a good teeth kick now before we commit to at least 3 links
>>>> locked into this gear
>>>>
>>>> SAF presales engineering is on the cautious side, a good example is our
>>>> first licensed link, our partner told us could be done with cambium at 2
>>>> foot antennas on each side
>>>>
>>>> the reseller told use with SAF it required a 3 and a 4, and that
>>>> (without saying it) our partner was smoking crack cocain after they took
>>>> bath salts. I have no doubt at 2 foot the link would have come up, but not
>>>> to a degree that a 30 db drop caused by a turned NPM would still result in
>>>> full modulation until failure,
>>>>
>>>> I dont want to have an "It will link" solution at the end of the day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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