Skimming.  Sorry my not so smartphone messes with me.

On May 16, 2017 11:18 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Have you considered skeeming to ground under the trees?
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> On May 16, 2017 9:19 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower
>> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the
>> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down
>> or trim a mile of trees.
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>> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just
>> be patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but
>> nobody knows who gets awarded or when.    So, 2.4GHz through a mile of
>> trees, here I come.
>>
>> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have to
>> pay tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the
>> tower and 2’ dish on the roof.  Once I see those numbers, I can make
>> adjustments on the roof.  Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking
>> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m
>> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi.
>>
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>>
>> Rory
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
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>> Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove trees in a
>> microwave path before and they had no problem doing it.
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>> *From:* Rory Conaway
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>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
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>> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry
>> service frowns on that.
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>>
>> Rory
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes,
>> vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3'
>> size dishes to get real LOS?
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>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably
>> going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.
>>
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>>
>> Rory
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO
>> antenna
>>
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>>
>> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered
>> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti
>> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements.
>> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively
>> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere
>> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed.
>>
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>> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a
>> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com
>> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but
>> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi.
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>> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.
>>
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>> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-
>> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas
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>>
>> -Chris
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>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be
>> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The
>> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet
>> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering
>> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides...
>>
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>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.
>>
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>>
>> Rory
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