May want to try the signal dual-slant instead of V+H, although I'm not sure
if the feedhorns on the big RW antennas can be set that way.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Koep
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> These are not real fun
>
> Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and
>
> a good crane operator
>
>
>
> Mitch
>
>
>
> On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> 16’ dish
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some
> kind of a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's
> going to happen when you get bigger dishes on there.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t an
> issue.  It’s more important that the link work.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do seems
> kind of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that up. I
> would want to put up some kind of a test link before I went there, even if
> it was just a pair of PowerBeams.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> I ran the numbers in linkplanner.  Too much tree variable for anything to
> be accurate.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use
> the PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and
> voila!
>
>
>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Rory Conaway <
> r...@triadwireless.net>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower
> they run to get extra bandwidth to the school (7 T1’s for 300 kids) or the
> medical clinic (2 T-1’s), I’m thinking they aren’t going to let me cut down
> or trim a mile of trees.
>
>
>
> Everytime I proposed something I was answered with “we have a plan, just
> be patient”.  Not really my strong suit. This plan involves towers but
> nobody knows who gets awarded or when.    So, 2.4GHz through a mile of
> trees, here I come.
>
> I thought of the 2’ dish and see what happens but I don’t want to have to
> pay tower climbers so do this twice.  I’m going to do the 8’ dish on the
> tower and 2’ dish on the roof.  Once I see those numbers, I can make
> adjustments on the roof.  Biggest issue is AF2 through trees.  I’m thinking
> that I’m bringing up a pair of ePMP 2.4GHz radios also to compare.  I’m
> also considering putting up a Cambium 450i 900MHz as backup with a Yagi.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Actually, you would be surprised.  I have asked them to remove trees in a
> microwave path before and they had no problem doing it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
>
> *To:*af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry service
> frowns on that.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 1:23 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes,
> vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3'
> size dishes to get real LOS?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably
> going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna
>
>
>
> Gain is never an exact number as it always varies over the covered
> frequency range and polarization, but from what I understand Ubiquiti
> overstates their gain by 2-3 db over the 'industry standard' measurements.
> Similar to how they say the AF24 can go up to 10miles, which is effectively
> bs, the max 99.99% availability reliable range is 3-4 miles almost anywhere
> on earth that a substantial number of those radios coild be installed.
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2017 8:44 PM, "Christopher Gray" <cg...@graytechsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> Gain is not quite as high as you are asking for, but L-Com goes up to a
> 900mm dish. I can't quite tell if UBNT over states their gain, L-Com
> understates their gain, or if there is another fundamental difference, but
> the L-Com 900mm dish is only rated at 25 dBi.
>
>
>
> I have not used it, but I've been happy with their 400mm unit.
>
>
>
> http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-dual-polarized-
> dpd-series-parabolic-dish-antennas
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have not seen one that is anywhere near reasonably priced and can be
> equipped with a (first party or third party) side shield/radome kit. The
> Radiowaves stuff exists but is a design from 15 years ago. Willing to bet
> the Radiowaves 3' and 4' size 2.4 GHz dishes are great at gathering
> unwanted 2.4 noise from the sides...
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Looking for something bigger than the Ubiquiti RD-24 dish.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mitch Koep
>
>
>
> A Better Wireless
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