>>> I can create this myself, I already have rack space, colocation, transport >>> and connections. But there is no money in it for me to go to that work.
This is where the Risk/Reward comes into play. If all the pieces are available to you, and it is just a matter of 'time & effort' to put it all together in a manageable system, we can provide you with that too.....as a one-time implementation or as a managed system.. Lots of ways this can be sliced and diced. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:34:50 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers > Once it hits the PSTN the quality is high and stays high. > I have spent the last 38 years working for the regulated side of the industry. > So I am biased, however hard to argue against SS7/DS0 for speed and quality of > connection. > If it is G.711/DS0 full rate PCM from one end to the other there will not be > jitter or latency. > So that I way I want VLAN to SIP gateway that is connected to a regional > tandem > if I can get it. > I can create this myself, I already have rack space, colocation, transport and > connections. But there is no money in it for me to go to that work. > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>>>i f the VLAN covered from the POTS to the SIP gateway that was connected to >>>>the > >>>tandem, the quality should be pretty high > Yes, sort off.... > Explanation:- > There are two legs to every call... one leg would be from the "switch" or > "Proxy" to the Customer CPE, and the second leg would be from the "switch" or > "Proxy" to the Voice Gateway (VOIP to TDM)... > Making sure that the network connection is clean and of high quality on both > legs will add to the quality, along with the Codec Conversion ... > Making sure that the 2nd leg is of high quality network connection gets more > challenging to do when terminating Nation Wide LD. > VOIP / TDM Gateways are becoming less and less, since more and more the the > Telco's are using Sonus Switches, thus keeping VOIP as packets end to end. > Most of the larger public network connectivity on Fiber (as you pointed out) > is > of high quality and as long as it is congestion free it is just fine... > In our experience, most of the voice issues tend to come from Codec > Conversions > (especially when they are done multiple times) and or High Jitter .... latency > tends not to be an issue... (Packet loss can be a prevailing factor, but these > days it is becoming more rare, unless you are traversing two IP Transit > Providers who have over subscribed interconnection ports). > Regards > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:14:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >> If the VLAN covered from the POTS to the SIP gateway that was connected to >> the >> tandem, the quality should be pretty high. Better than using best-effort >> public >> routing to the gateway. >> But since everything is fiber these days and everything tends to work very >> well, >> it may not be a difference that would be noticeable. >> From: Faisal Imtiaz >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >> @ $7 is a decent price for this type of service, keeping in mind that the >> whole >> picture could be different once the one time charges and any minimum commits >> are taken into account. >> Figure about $3-$4 per sub as a 'cost' of platform. $1 for DID + Caller ID >> lookup, and the rest would be used for mou's, I am assuming that taxes & fees >> along with E911 charges would be over and above the $7. >> At the end of the day it is going to be about Volume, i.e. 100 subs vs 1000 >> subs, somewhere about $2500-3k/month spending the balance between doing the >> flat rate style arrangement vs taking the risk on mou arbitrage will start to >> change. >> In regards to a 'local' provider, vlan providing quality would not be >> accurate, >> and quite possibly a myth. It only would address a very small portion of the >> actual path.. The quality greatly depends on the providers setup, i.e. how >> many >> codec conversions are taking place in the Voice path, and what is the network >> connectivity to the VOIP to TDM gateway or Sonus/ACME Switch path looks like. >> Folks commonly mistake in looking at the network path to the Proxy, or the >> call >> control data path, while the actual quality of the Voice is dependent on the >> network path of the Voice traffic, which is not the same as the call control >> traffic. >> It has taken a long time to learn the intricacies of VOIP, what affects it >> and >> how to identify them. >> We will be more than happy to work with you on this project of that makes >> sense. >> Regards >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:17:31 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>> We have no idea how many will want this. Currently we have over 5K on pots. >>> We have a provider that is willing to do it in the $7 range. They are >>> already >>> serving some of our other areas. >>> I figured if I could VLAN it to a local provider the quality ought to be >>> perfect. >>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:00 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>> Fair enough, that explains why you are looking for this.. >>> Care to share Price Target ? and Qty / Volume commit ? >>> Regards. >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:47:41 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>>> We are starting to offer stand alone broadband under the neca CBOL tariff. >>>> Some >>>> of those people will still want telephone service. So we need a non >>>> regulated >>>> VOIP product that will not traverse our regulated equipment. >>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:30 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>>> Care to share on-list or off-list as to what is the core reason why you are >>>> looking for such ? >>>> i.e. a regulatory issue ? A Technical Issue ? or a perceived convenience >>>> issue ? >>>> We can easily provide you with such a service, but depending on the core >>>> issue >>>> you are trying to solve it may or may not be a good working arrangement. >>>> Regards. >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:44:36 PM >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers >>>>> I need a wholesale voip provider to serve my ILEC territory in Utah. I >>>>> would >>>>> port my local 801-789 numbers to the VOIP provider. >>>>> We need unlimited LD and solid 911. Would prefer someone local. >>>>> So, before I give XMission a call I thought I would put this out there.
